Date: Sun, 3 Jan 1999 18:58:22 +0100 From: "Edmund Blackadder" <fredrik.israelssonnopsam.se> Subject: Re: Test : Saab 9-5 V63.0 vs. Volvo S80 2.9
Johan LAUWERS skrev i meddelandet <76o0ko$4ri$1nopsam3.Belgium.EU.net>... >Hello everyone, > >Following the results of a test that was done by a belgian car magazine that >has allways been very anti-Saab. Still,... > >Volvo >In favor : > * Safety - feeling > * Offer in general > * Comfort (especially the seats) > * Brakes >Against : > * Drinking too much > * Gear box definitely old fashioned > * Stear is too much powered > * Several laks in equipment : too much options to pay for. > >Saab > In favor : > * Complete and intelligent equipment > * Royal comfort > * Ergonomy > * Nice engine > * Big interior space > * Relaxed driving pleasure > * Obvious character and personality >Against : > * Griffin (Top model) too pricy (although it is a full full full option) > * Rolling sounds > * Seat too high when electrical > * temporary spare wheel > >Prices : The problem here is that in the 9-5 V6 there is no base model (in >Belgium). The least you can take is a 9-5 SE being a 9-5 with CD-player, >cruise control, leather seats, electronic airco, .... Therefore I took >those options by Volvo and added them to the base price giving a 10 % >reduction assuming that there are some packages that you can take with Volvo >as well. The prices are in belgian franks and Euros but I suppose everyone >can count and see the difference (if there is) > >Volvo s80 with options comparable to SE : 1 604 200 BF or 39 777 Euro >Saab 9-5 SE : 1 629 000 BF or 40 392 Euro. > >Difference : 24 800 BF or 615 Euro > > >Concerning Safety : > >Saab has been proven to be the safest car in his class and category in the >latest (very recent) European NCAP-crashtests. > >Concerning some figures : (all the chrono's are in km/h and meters but again >it's the comparison that counts) > >Volvo : >Cylinder : 2922 cm³ >Power : 204 Hp >Couple(Torque) : 280 Nm at 2800 RPM >Top speed : 225 km/h >400 m distance starting from 0 km/h : 16.9 s. >1000 m distance starting from 0 km/h : 30.3 s. >1000 m distance starting from 40 km/h in kickdown : 29.0 >Consumption in liters / 100 km : 12.4 > >Saab : >Cylinder : 2962 cm³ >Power : 200 Hp >Couple(Torque) : 310 Nm at 2100 RPM >Top speed : 235 km/h >400 m distance starting from 0 km/h : 16.2 s. >1000 m distance starting from 0 km/h : 29.6 s. >1000 m distance starting from 40 km/h in kickdown : 28.3 >Consumption in liters / 100 km : 12.2 > > Is that test-figures or fabric? If they are fabric you should remember that Volvo usually are 5-10% slower and consumes 5-10% more petrol than fabric figures. SAAB usually drinks as much as it says, or a little less. Don´t know about the speed/acceleration though. /Edmund >All these things show that the previously meant discussion are confirmed by >saying that for the same amount of money a comparable car and engine : the >Saab beats Volvo on almost every item. Too bad Radek isn't convinced of >this allthough those figures are objective and the car magazine probably >typed them down with pain in the hart (they really hate Saab, normally they >can't say anything good of it). The car magazine is the belgian : >"Autogids" or "Le moniteur Automobile". > >One more thing : allthough I'm a Saab lover I try to be objective and I >allready said it in an other discussion : I have allways liked Volvo but I >hate the rear end of the S80. On the other hand I believe the dissapearing >screan of the navigation system in the S80 is ingenious. > >JOhan. > >
