Date: Mon, 05 Apr 1999 19:54:41 GMT
From: Riff <turbospgnopsamsouth.net>
Subject: Re: SAABs are little bitch cars (BS?)


Porsche Rules AWD, 959, 996 turbo.... and my SAAB is a good raod car,I never said that it was for racing only! It is a better overall car becasue of the so many things it CAN do compared to what it can't do ( have 350 relible HP) Mark Mike Chiang wrote: > > Riff wrote in message <3708583F.3E23CB0Enopsamsouth.net>... > >My SPG can whoop a 6 cyl bmw in the rain, snow, ice, and DRY! > > Not mine it won't. I doubt an SPG 900 could keep up with an old 4 cylinder > E30 M3 Evo II on a road course, let alone my E36 M3. > > >I regularly whoop 328's of the same vintage (91) and surprise most of > >the owners. plus I can take a HUGE load of stuff in the hatch and even > >more with the back seat down. or keep the seat up and put in the cage, > >and keep the dogs in the back. An the SAAB 96 in 1961 AND 1962 won the > >Monte Carlo Rally! but then some new Porsche entry (911) won . > > >that SAAB was a 3 cyl 2 cycle with front wheel drive, around 50 HP/ > > Mark. Put the joint down, m'kay? You *couldn't* have regularly whooped > 328's of the same vintage ('91) because THERE WERE NO 328s in '91. > > You could be blowing off 316s or Ford Mondeos or Fiat Puntos for all we > know. You're obviously not paying attention to proper identification. > > But you're right, there is a good amount of space available in the back of a > 900. FWD packaging efficiencies are apparent here.. > zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz ). > > SAAB's accomplishments in the world of international motorsports is modest. > They have no European Touring Car championships, no FIA GT championships, no > wins at Le Mans or Daytona or Sebring. BMWs have proven themselves for > years in these production based racing venues. > > (Okay.. SAAB may has 1 or 2 Touring Car wins.. BMW has what, like 20?) > > >so dont tell me that RWD is the only way! that SAAB beat 100's of other > >cars for FIRST OVERALL in the rally, and SAAB has won many rallys, > >including the RAC i Great Britain and the Swedish rally. RWD is good for > >SUPER racing, but for overall street performance , I'll take my SAAB any > >day. I just cant wait until SAAB make an AWD car. so when your BMW > >slides off the road, you'll wish you had FWD, or AWD! > > Nope, RWD is not the only way. There is also AWD. > > Mark, check out these simple concepts. > > Torque steer/power understeer > Weight transfer > Weight distribution > Friction circle > Exit speed > > Read about them. And you'll understand why not many people regard FWD as a > sporting platform, especially as speed and power increases. How come there > has never been a FWD Ferrari or Porsche? Which axle provides the twist in a > Vette? A Viper? A Mercedes CLK-GTR? > > I'll give credit to SAABs in the mushy gray stuff, but this is a common > misconception what FWD is always superior to any RWD when the weather turns > bad. While this may have been true in the days before ABS and > traction/stability control, it is most certainly not the case anymore. > Modern BMWs do just fine in the white stuff, thanks. They may not be as > fleet as say, a Subaru Imprezza WRX in 2 feet of snow, but they aren't > parked for the reminder of the winter, either (unless their owners are > protecting them from road salt). > > BTW, Subarus rule AWD and Hondas rule FWD anyway. > > >Mark > >91 SPG 900 turbo > >66 96 Monte Carlo 850cc 3 cyl > > Mike Chiang > 95 BMW ///M3

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