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Date: Mon, 09 Aug 1999 15:46:29 GMT
From: nutmeggernopsameja.com
Subject: Re: saabophiles: convince me


In article <37AD91B9.FAE50EF6nopsamaone.net>, Jared Nedzel <nedzelnopsamaone.net> wrote: > > > nutmeggernopsameja.com wrote: > > > > 4) shifter was decent, but not great > > > > I love how my Saab shifts.....very smooth, better than anything else I > > drove, and I've drove many vehicles. > > Actually, of all the cars I've driven in the past few > days (VW GTI, VW Passat, A4 Avant, 2000 Subary Legacy GT, > Saab 9-3, and BMW 323), the car with the best shifter > of all is my '87 Integra. Surprisingly, my Integra's > shifter is even better than the 323. Perhaps the cars that > I'm test driving will shift better when they get broken in > (and when I get more accustomed to their action). Maybe, you get used to one thing, then it takes a while. I am so happy with mine, I go through the gears like water. > > I found the Saab shifter to be decent, but a bit rubbery. Rubbery? I haven't found that at all in the Saabs I have driven. > The 323 was relatively notchy and at least once I had > a hard time finding a gear. Again, it would probably > get better with time. Probably. > > > > 8) didn't like having to flop the rear seat cushions > > > and remove the head rest > > > > Flop the seat cushions??? > > To completely lower the rear seat, you pull the seat > bottom cushions forward, then pull down the seat backs, > remove the headrests from the seat backs, and also > remove the hatch cover. Yup, same as mine. It isn't that bad, you get used to it. > > On my Integra, you just pull the seat backs forward and > remove the hatch cover. Don't have to bother with the > seat bottom cushion or head rests. Of course, it also > doesn't have rear head rests to protect the back seat > passengers from injury... Heh, my Jimmy was like that, but I'm happier with the Saab. > > > > BMW 323 -- Nice car. Nice motor. Trunk is reasonable, > > > but opening is small. Base price is high, > > > but stripped. Probably out of my price range. > > > Coming 323 wagon would be just about right > > > (and probably way too much $$$s). > > > > YUCK! > > Don't know what you don't like about it. Styling is clearly > a subjective thing. Well, I do love how they look, but that is about it. You might not like the typical owner of a BMW, > but the car itself is pretty sweet. Typical owner - that's it. :) Nice motor, good performance, > great structural integrity, excellent handling. I do prefer > RWD over FWD as I find RWD to be more fun. I do too, but I've found FWD more helpful in my driving, and I can play around with it just fine. > > Poor traction in the winter can be solved by the traction > control system and 4 snow tires (not all season tires, but > snow tires). Yes, that's right especially if you use studs on the rear tires. But, you don't need it with the Saab, it goes through anything. I've never gotten stuck in snow. I've never worried about it either. > > But they sure are expensive. Isn't everything? > > > What about the S70? > > Those look very nice, I'm going to try that also, but have reservations. Yes, I did also, I talked to some techs about them. > > I've heard some bad things about Volvo quality lately. But > more importantly, they are expensive. I also understand > that they are not very sporting to drive, unless you get > one of the sportier models. The base model (without > the turbo) starts at ~$30,000. Looking at www.kbb.com, > it appears that you can't get a turbo and a 5 speed. > Even if you could, it would be out of my price range. Seems in the price range of the others you mentioned. Anyway are your concerns about quality have anything to do with the buy-out? I don't see any problem with Volvo quality, they are one of the safest vehicles on the road besides Mercedes. The S70 looks very nice too, and they are built to last. They also are selling like hot-cakes, so getting service appointments might be a problem in your area. Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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