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Date: Thu, 26 Aug 1999 23:57:22 GMT
From: nutmeggernopsameja.com
Subject: Re: Saab Scania logo


In article <37c4cb8b.262537nopsam.pacbell.net>, jazepedanopsamell.net (Alex Zepeda) wrote: > On Wed, 25 Aug 1999 20:35:57 GMT, nutmeggernopsameja.com wrote: > > >HEY!! I said it was personal we are all entitled to our opinions. > > Ehm, I must have missed that. I think it's more like we're all > entitled to our own opinions, and most likely will never change them > :^) Yup. > > >> What about that rash of 9000s that caught fire due to something Saab > >> supposedly swept under the rug? > >> > >No car company has a perfect record, but look how they dealt with it > >compared to the American auto manufacturers. > > From what I read in the newspaper, they tried to do nothing until some > guy had his art collection burn down with his house because of his > 9000. This was front page news a few years ago in the San Francisco > Chronicle. Blah, blah, blah....... > > Then again, there are quite a few people who would claim that Mazda is > the worst for the way they built and dealt with the third gen rx7. Hey! I've read good things about the rotary design. > > >There is more to it than that, it just gets so political and I hate > >going there. > > True enough. Glad you see my point. > > >Ford is number one for recalls, that is a fact. > > I'm curious where you came up with this figure. I've certianly never > seen this, but then again I've never really looked hard at the number > of recalls. I have excellent sources. Hell, even Honda recalled a bunch of cars recently. > Again I'd attribute the high number of recalls to relatively new and > sadly untested designs... but that's just me. I attribute it to companies being CHEAP. > > >I'm sure if you researched it, it would actually be quite funny at some > >of the recalls they have had. > > Having seen some of them, and owning a Ford, I'm not sure I find this > terribly funny, stupid yes, uncommon no. So true, you've just got to admit it. > > >I'm not really arguing anything either, it is just my opinion and Saabs > >were designed to collapse around the driver to protect him/her, years > >before any of this other stuff. > > What about Volvo and Mercedes? Certianly not American companies (but > they own a few ;)), but I think they developed crush zones ahead of > Saab. Besides, IIRC it was the American auto industry that developed > the first series of crash test dummys, no? Dummies for the dummies? > > >Don't get me going on airbags, and did you ever think why they aren't > >standard? Cost is one factor, but there are many others. > > Sure, being a litigious country has its disadvantages. Un-huh. > > >Heh, when I had an operation on my foot, I couldn't drive my Saab. :( > >I couldn't drive any standard, so I borrowed a friend's Taurus because > >it was an automatic. Nothing about it impressed me in the least, and > >the doors do not have the same weight behind them, and they are not air > >tight like a Saab. > > Heh and when I was in my friend's 9000 Turbo, I was insanely jealous. I can easily understand why. > It was an awesome car, even with five people crammed into it, but the > Taurus remains quite solid after ten years. Perhaps not as solid as a > Saab, but there are very few squeaks and rattles. Don't get me wrong, > it's not up there on my list of cars I'd like, but hey, a free car, is > better than no car (at least to me as a teenager). A free car is a free car! Keep saving, boy you'd love the SPG I just sold, it'd be perfect for you. > > >HA!!! I have the same exact gripe. I love my seats for the comfort and > >the heaters, but in the summer I burn my legs on them all the time and > >there isn't a seat cover that looks nice, so I use a towel. > > Instant underside of the legs tan ;) Tan?!?! No way, more like burnt to a crisp. > > >It's too soon to tell, you can't go by how a car looks. > >They do look nice. > > I have a hard time believing that they could really get much worse > style or quality wise. The late 80s Jags were so disgusting (IMO) > that it would take effort to make a worse car. Altho I'm not too > impressed with the new XJ8 (the XJR OTOH nearly keeps me up at nights > ;)). HA!! You are too funny. > > >Whatever, I'm not trying to convince you of anything. Just stating my > >views and it is perfectly fine if you don't agree with them. :) > > Hence the post, I mean where better to stand on a soapbox than Usenet? It sure beats the hell out of me. > > >> Nearly any engine can be made to last quite a while if it's given > >> proper care. > > > >Well Alex, truthfully I see alot more Saab's running around with over > >200K on the motors than I do any Ford or GM. Sure, there are some, but > >there just is no comparison. > > I live in an area (hell most of the SF Bay Area is like this) where > everything is an indicator of status. Cars are leased, houses are > rented, etc. The majority of the cars around here are quite new (and > thus rather low mileage), and the older ones are mainly imports (MBZ, > BMW, Saab mainly). Oh, you should see what is running around here. I think that the fact there are very few American > cars with that kind of mileage says two things: > > * The 70s and 80s were awful for American car manufactures Depends on what you classify as awful. > * Unless the car is exceptional, most people around here have no > desire to keep such an old car OHHHH!! So you agree then that Saabs are an exceptional car? Sent via Deja.com http://www.deja.com/ Share what you know. Learn what you don't.

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