Date: Tue, 04 Apr 2000 10:35:03 +0200 From: RCS <e9225126nopsam1.tuwien.ac.at> Subject: Re: Purchase Saab Convertable
Hello Mr. Service Chief! I didnīt say Saab makes unsafe Saab - I said GM doesnīt know how to make a SAAB - And the poor SAAB guys are trying their best to make a SAAB out of the Astra/Vectra/Calibra thing they īve got from GM! I really believe they tried hard and also placed a lots of modifications into the 900NG 9-3 change, but that is not enough, you canīt change a car design completely if you have to use the parts! It was also a problem to make a 9000 out of a ALFA/LANCIA but it was more successful cause they made lots of modifications to the base group. (the 9000 was awarded to the safest car) For my point of view the structural integrety of the 900NG base group is too low (or: at GM/Opel level), that may be the reason for the dome bar in the enginge compartment. When one drove an old 900 against a fix barier at 35mph (55kmh) then 2/3 of the front wind screen where intact - and I believe you know the design of the old 900 wind screen! Of course nowadays they drive with 40mph (64kmh) but it would be very nice if the passenger compartment would stop collapsing at the ends of the front wheel housings and not at the front seats. And this is a design philosophy! I think Saab makes still a fine job and the 900NG is a nice car, but itīs not dramatically revolutionary - everyone I know expected more from the "new" 900 and was disappointed. (we still love the 9-5!!!) I know that the new 9-3(II) convertible must be nearly finished but maybee you are the right one to tell that we want to see a longer hood (no cap forward design), a luggage compartment that has the size of the old 900conv. and a roll over protection for the one that are sitting on the rear seats (we like the guys in the second row too!) If they take a modified wheel suspension of the 9-5, the design of the old 900 convertible and the crash behaviour of the 9-5 - Iīd sign the contract immediatly (even with the new V6 LPT)! - thatīs what I expect from a SAAB and I want to get for my money (and I wouldnīt care if the price will be at the same level as the old 900 convertible was - if Iīd like an Astra convertible I`d buy one for less money) Maybee you can tell that your Sales Director.. Greetings, RCS kwbrewer : > We've had plenty in for service bud, Sure there is more maintence because > you have to replace the timing belt every 30k miles but i've never had one > break. The V6 is a strong running engine, sure its no turbo but thers not a > thing wrong with that engine. The reason Saab stopped selling the V6 is > because it was a slow seller. The typical Saab buyer wants & buys the 4 > cylinder engine and of course its a great engine, the best Saab makes but to > say the V6 engine is no good is wrong!!! As far as the safety aspects the > real world experience proves how safe the NG900 is. You really think Saab > would make an unsafe Saab? I think not Mr Expert!! > > RCS <e9225126nopsam1.tuwien.ac.at> wrote in message > news:38E8444E.ADCCBCCnopsam1.tuwien.ac.at... > > Hey guy, you must be funny! If you are the Service Manager then you should > know > > what was wrong with the V6 engine - I canīt believe that! Can only bee > that they > > sold just that few V6 cars that youīve never had one in service. And can > you > > remember how long they sold the 9000 with the V6 engine?! Of course I > donīt want > > to make bad advertisment for the V6 - ask one of your service department! > > (the old 900 had with 255Nm even more torque than the service intensive > V6 - I > > only say: the V6 has no chain drive... ) > > And if you want to hear it explicitly: The front crash behaviour of the > 900NG is > > inacceptable and not compareable to any other Saab (900, 9000, 9-5) - > shame on > > the GM ingeneers!!! > > > > Regards, RCS > > > > > > kwbrewer > > > > > Different doesn't been bad!!! I've been the Service Manager at a Saab > > > dealership for 16 years thank you... > > > I would still like to know whats wrong with the V6 engine and crash > > > behavior!! > > > > > > Tony <tshiminopsamAMhome.com> wrote in message > > > news:38E7B59C.F7C9CEFAnopsamAMhome.com... > > > > kwbrewer wrote: > > > > > > > > > > Who made you the expert?.................and what do you mean > especially > > > the > > > > > V6,road holing and crash behavior ? Sounds like someone who can't > > > afford > > > > > a newer Saab!!!!! > > > > > > > > > No, sounds like someone who knows his stuff. The new SAAB (post GM) is > a > > > > different car (design mentality and execution) than the original > > > > (swedish design and execution). > > > > > > > > P.S. I know what I'm talking about (35 years of driving SAAB/VW/BMW) > > > > what's your credential for judging cars? (or anything else!!). > > > > -- > > > > Remove "NOSPAM" from address for direct e-mail > > > > > > > > ####### > > > > # #### # # # # > > > > # # # ## # # # > > > > # # # # # # # > > > > # # # # # # # > > > > # # # # ## # > > > > # #### # # # > >
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