Date: Sat, 11 Nov 2000 14:14:13 -0600
From: "Walt Kienzle" <wkienzlenopsam.com>
Subject: Re: What happened to AS2 & AS3?


Rob, I did most of my research at Crutchfield http://www.crutchfield.com, so they are all available in the US. I believe Pioneer has something too. My research assumed that 2 DIN slots would be available, since that is what I have in my Saab 9000 and Ford Taurus, and I don't particularly care for trunk mounted changers. Blaupunkt has only one configuration that I liked: Dallas MiniDisc receiver, and the IDC-09 five disc in-dash CD changer. Kenwood has a variety of CD, Cassette, and MiniDisc receivers that can be connected to their in-dash CD player, or three MiniDisc in-dash changer. I believe that there is an adapter available that would allow the connection of a Cassette/Receiver with both the CD player and the MiniDisc changer, but 3 DIN slots would be needed unless one of the pieces is mounted elsewhere. Kenwood also has a receiver that plays CD-RWs and MP3s, but it doesn't seem to work with the MiniDisc changer (or any other Kenwood CD changer than the model Kenwood specifies) because of some quirk in its design. Pioneer doesn't have any MiniDisc receivers, but they have a MiniDisc player that can be added to a CD receiver. IIRC, it costs more than the Kenwood, and only holds 1 disc and not 3. JVC used to have a unit that played CDs and MiniDiscs in a one DIN form factor. I have seen some around, but I think it has been discontinued and haven't seen anything from them to replace it. It was kind of expensive (list price of $750) but not too bad considering how much the total Blaupunkt or Kenwood package I was pricing would cost. Sony has MiniDisc receivers, but they don't have any in-dash add-on CD or MiniDisc players like Kenwood, Blaupunkt, and Pioneer have. I hope this helps. Walt Kienzle "Rob Malkin" <rmalkinnopsametcom.com> wrote in message news:8ujosf$ldp$1nopsam.atl.mindspring.net... > Walt and others: > > I'm in the process of searching for an in-dash CD/minidisc player to have > installed in my new 9-5 wagon. It will have to be a 2-layer (2 DIN?) unit so > as to not leave a gaping a hole in the dash. So far I've found a couple of > SONY units on the internet but I don't know if they're available here in the > U.S. > > Walt, are the Kenwood and Blaupunkt units you mention available in the U.S.? > Any other recommendations would be greatly appreciated. > > Thanks. > > - Rob Malkin > > Walt Kienzle wrote in message > <3a0c99b8$0$62625$1dc6d6e3nopsam.corecomm.net>... > >Thank you. I have found aftermarket ones that I like from Blaupunkt and > >Kenwood because I can have both CDs and MiniDisks in the dash. > > > >But you must have missed the original postings, and the original point of > >this thread: That Saab isn't offering sound systems that meet may people's > >needs. One person was asking about a tape deck and a CD player. My > request > >was for MiniDisk from the factory, like GM provides for the few models they > >ship to Japan. > > > >Walt > > > >"Kalman Rubinson" <kr4nopsamnyu.edu> wrote in message > >news:hQyN5.4$546.80nopsamoon.nyu.edu... > >> Walt Kienzle <wkienzlenopsam.com> wrote: > >> > ...and I guess we'll leave it at that. Since you don't like the sound > >of > >> > MiniDiscs, I would expext that you really hate MP3's since they deviate > >from > >> > the "true" sound even more. > >> > >> > >> Yup. OTOH, I've never found any music I care about on MP3. > >> > >> I hope you find a minidisc player for your Saab. > >> > >> Kal > >> > >> > "Kalman Rubinson" <kr4nopsamnyu.edu> wrote in message > >> > news:f6oN5.48$cW4.342nopsamoon.nyu.edu... > >> >> Walt Kienzle <wkienzlenopsam.com> wrote: > >> >> > And just think, if you switched to MiniDisc, you wouln't be creating > >all > >> >> > that garbage from CD-R's that you have thrown out. Don't we get > >enough > >> > of > >> >> > that from AOL with their subscription mailings? > >> >> > >> >> And if I tried to use minidiscs, I'd have to buy players/recorders to > >> >> hear them outside of the car. Besides, and this is really getting us > >> > off-topic, > >> >> I don't like how they sound. > >> >> > >> >> Now, I have no objection to your strategy but mine works just fine, > >> > especially since > >> >> there is a CD player in my dash, I have a CD burner in my computer > that > >> > permits me > >> >> to use the cheaper discs, and I can play them on my big systems > without > >> > cringing. > >> >> > >> >> > BTW, I pay about $3 per CD-R (and $10 per CD-RW) because of the > >special > >> > CD's > >> >> > that an audio system CD burner requires, thanks to the RIAA. Even > >> > though I > >> >> > am recording programming that went into the public domain years ago, > >I > >> > still > >> >> > have to pay royalties to some unknown entity. Since I go through > >about > >> > 2 > >> >> > CD's worth of material a day, that would be about $1,500 a year -- > >and a > >> > lot > >> >> > of filled up landfills. If you are wondering why I don't just use > >the > >> >> > cheaper CDs and burn them on my computer. It's like you said: > "...it > >> > comes > >> >> > down to convenience." > >> >> > >> >> My use is about one CD-R per week. To each his own. > >> >> > >> >> Kal > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > > >

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