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Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2001 15:56:59 GMT
From: "Slippery_Fish" <staringnopsamstars>
Subject: Re: Does anyone use synthetic oils?


I'm not going to read your response. Clean up your act. TIA. SF "Daniel J. Stern" <dasternnopsamn.umich> wrote in message news:Pine.SOL.4.33.0110272124050.25276-100000nopsam.engin.umich.edu... > Mr. Buck and Mr. Hayton don't know to shut their yaps when they're losing > an argument, and so: > > > There are, in fact, two "API Approved" products: XL-7500 5W30 and 10W30 > > BFD. Day late. Dollar short. Just another "Johnny come lately" in the > lubrication field, just like all the rest of them. Worse, actually, > because they come from a company with no track record of producing quality > API-approved products. > > > The point is that Mobil has (as have others) in fact modified the > > composition and performance of Mobil1 over the years, albeit with the > > blessing the of API. > > You seem to have a difficult time grasping that the API blessing is the > important part. Nobody gives an expired jar of Best Foods Real Mayonnaise > what Scamsoil salesdroids claim. It's not backed up by an independent and > credible research body (API), therefore the "data" (and I use the term > *very* loosely) supplied by Scamsoil boosters is rendered moot. > > > Would the extended drain concept be more palatable if it was (and is) > > promoted by one of the majors? > > We're not talking about other companies. We're talking about Scamsoil. > You're still pressing the point, which can only mean you're too damned dim > to grasp the concept: The extended-drain concept would be believable if > applied by a major oil company to one of the major oil company's products. > A lot of people have a lot at stake if Mobil or Pennzoil or Ashland loses > market goodwill on account of overly-optimistic drain recommendations. > Nobody but Scamsoil salesdroids gives a mouldy kumquat if that "company" > disappears off the map forever. Matter of fact, I suspect that the > rejoicing would be rather considerable! > > > Do you find fault with the marketing program, generally? > > <ROFLMAO> Is the weather ever warm in Death Valley, California in the > month of July? > > > There are many small to mid-size companies that only operate via mail > > order, for example. > > Listen, Baron Von Attention Deficit Disorder: try to stay focused on the > conversation topic at hand. We're discussing Scamsoil's scuzzy > pyramid-crazed salesdroids who not only figure they're going to retire off > of Scamsoil, but whose pushiness is rendered trebly obnoxious by their > ignorance of the products they're hawking. Incidentally, where in the > name of screaming gorgonzola cheese do these wide-eyed simpletons think > they're going to "retire" to? Emmy-Jo 'n' JayBob's Trailer Parcque 'n' > Heavy Duty Lawnmower Boutique? > > > wouln't there would be fewer and fewer repeat customers if the > > products didn't work as claimed? > > There is an omnipresent supply of yutzes with more money than brains for > pyramid-crazed Scamsoilers to prey on. No rocket science here. Barnum > proved this one AGES ago. > > > Quite a few folks who have previously used API certified petroleum and > > synthetic oils perceive an increase in power and fuel economy, and > > decreased operating temperatures and wear after changing to our > > expensive, uncertified oils. Of course, this perception may be due to > > sun spots, El Nino, or subtle shifts in the earth's magnetic fields. > > Then again, many of these people not only come back to purchase more > > of these expensive, uncertified oils, but they recommend these > > expensive, uncertified products to family and friends who also seem to > > experience increased power and fuel economy and reduced operating > > temperatures and wear. > > Blah blah blah, woof woof woof. Have a look in any half-decent psychology > text. First look up the placebo effect. Then look up > compensatory-justification behavior patterns, whereby people are compelled > to justify whatever expense they've just made. You betray your lies when > you admit that the victims of your scam "perceive" all of these marvelous > effects. They don't really happen. > > Here's one such "perception", which I just grabbed off'n the web this > evening, from http://www.ford-trucks.com/dcforum/chips/82.html : > > "I have used Amsoil in my truck since new (12 Miles) I changed the engine, > both diffs, Trans case and tranny to synth fluid, its hard to say if my > gas mileage was affected because I have nothing to compare but I can say > from having used Castrol GTX in all my other trucks that when you start it > the tach doesn't go high and drop down, it goes to 750 and stays solid so > that tells me that the oil is delivered quicker to all engine parts upon > startup." > > Quite a perception there, eh? > > DS >

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