Date: Fri, 04 Oct 2002 21:14:43 GMT From: "JTK" <jussitknopsamwish.evtek.fi> Subject: Re: Saab V8
Ok. Putting aside fuel consumption and such. For me priorities in a car are handling, brakes and power, in that order. A car with turbo usually makes the same power as a bigger NA engine, thus being lighter. Usually a lighter engine helps in handling and braking as it takes off weight from front or back thus helping with weight distribution. Especially in snowy conditions handling comes first as a big engine high power FF car will go straigth and a FR car will spin rear wheels and be all over the place. Of course you can drive those cars in snow, but it's much easier with a car that has a good balance. (first snow/sleet forecasted for friday/saturday night :-( AND :-). Lag of course is a major difficulty in snow conditions, as is a big engines lowend torque (too much/sudden wheelspin) without TCS/ESP and such. And don't get me wrong but I don't like TCS/ESP if it can't be switched off ;-). Um I didn't mean this to come out as handling post so I have to say this: Light, insanely powerful turbo engine is the ticket for me :-D Jussi Ketola wanting a 4WD SAAB =) "Dave Finnegan" <dfinnegannopsamhronicity.com> wrote in message news:3D9B4CCC.9020108nopsamhronicity.com... > Why do you like turbos better than normally aspirated engines? > Just curious. > > I would think that given a 250 Hp turbo engine and a 250 Hp > normally aspirated engine, in the same car, that the normally > aspirated engine would "perform" better. > > By that I mean the NA engine would not suffer from turbo lag; > albeit slight, or not so slight as some have suggested. Also, I > would expect the NA engine to provide greater engine breaking. > > I certainly appreciate the improved gas mileage of a turbo. And, > I expect the NA would be heavier and thus reduce performance to > some degree. > > Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoy driving the Saab turbo. I > find it to be very smooth and haven't been bothered by the turbo > lag to any great extent. I have felt it on occassion. As when > "poking" it to dart through traffic when approaching a left hand > turn at a light. Other than that, I generally accellerate more > smoothly when passing, etc, and have not felt at all hindered by > any lag. Though, I think the lag in my car (2002 9-5 Aero) is > less than others on the list have suggested. I do, however, wish > I had greater engine breaking ability. Even at high RPMs in low > gears the breaking is just not what I would expect. > > Dave > > JTK wrote: > > I have also read about it, sometime this summer/fall. It was still in early > > development and they had to have the ACC set to max temp, as otherwise the > > engine would have overheated in minutes. But never the less, I like turbos > > more ;-) > > > > JK > > > > "Johannes H Andersen" <johsnopsamanytime.co.uk> wrote in message > > news:3D9A7457.EE27B7E3nopsamanytime.co.uk... > > > >>Yep, just read about a 9-5 with a transverse 4.3L V8, 300bhp 400Nm. There > >>is a picture at engine under the bonnet, looks like there's little room > >>left over for - you know what I'm thinking about. However, the article > >>claims that the alu V8 weighs little more that the four. Says the engine > >>will first appear in a Vauxhall Signum. This suggests that the engine will > >>not be very unique for Saab. Hmmm, don't know what to say. But in the > >>context of the field of BMWs, Audi, Mercs, it is perhaps not surprising. > >> > >>Johannes > > > > > > > > > -- > Dave Finnegan > davenopsamnegan.com >
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