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Date: Thu, 14 Nov 2002 16:01:52 GMT
From: "Sport" <steveginnnopsamail.com>
Subject: Re: Brake Bleeding Questions '99 9-3


We tried the "open first and then press once" method you describe and it worked! Thanks, S. "Jeff Tope" <jeff.topenopsamAMnopsamenworld.com> wrote in message news:aqqhsf$he0$1nopsams.btinternet.com... > The way I always have bleed brakes is the two people reqd method... > > Empty out old dirty brake fluid from header (old bulb hydrometer for testing > battery acid) and fill with clean fluid. > > setup.. clear pipe from nipple into clean glass jar with a little fluid in > to view bubbles etc. > 1/ check fluid level > 2/ open valve, > 3/ gently press pedal to floor and HOLD > 4/ close valve > 5/ release pedal > repeat until clean fluid AND no bubbles > > THEN > on last pressing of pedal, close valve whilst being pressed. > > If you apply pressure first, air tends to get pressed in the wrong direction > at Y's etc and you never get rid of it. > > NEVER recycle brake fluid, it absorbs water and should be changed every two > years, old 'wet' fluid boils at a lower temperature than new fluid - if your > brakes boil on a long descent, you don't have any brakes. > > HTH > Jeff > "Sport" <steveginnnopsamail.com> wrote in message > news:Vw1A9.4304$1O2.18nopsamnsc04... > > Thanks for the interest. > > > > It's spongy brakes. We're doing the 2 person, 3 pump/open/close on a > level > > drive way. 10 times on each wheel starting at the farthest from the master > > cylinder. > > > > I don't think it has anything to do with expanding the pads. The brakes > > have been applied many times including activating the ABS a couple times. > > > > Any advice would be appreciated. > > > > Steve > > > > > Or is it spongy brakes you're experiencing? In which case we're > > > probably talking about air in the hydraulics. > > > > > > So we have a better of idea of the level of fix done, can you tell a bit > > > about the bleeding technique? With air pressure from the reservoir, > > > or the "two-person push-open-close-release method"? > > > > "Robert Brown" <rjbnopsamripnetvvv.se> wrote in message > > news:3DD098D1.BAEFD39Bnopsamripnetvvv.se... > > > Sport wrote: > > > > > > > 1999 9-3 SE 5-door, auto, ABS, 41,000 mi. > > > > > > > > Can you offer suggestions to help with a soft brake pedal? > > > > > > > > I replaced the front discs and pads this weekend. Everything came > apart > > > > easily and went back the same. Afterward, the pedal was soft which I > > didn't > > > > expect. There is maybe a couple inches of soft travel in the pedal > > before > > > > it starts slowing the car. > > > > > > > > I have bled the brakes now 4 times and while the pedal is better, it's > > not > > > > back to where it was. If I jab them once and then apply the brake, > then > > > > they feel nice and firm. > > > > > > > > I'm bleeding them in this order: rr, lr, rf, lf. Between each > bleeding > > > > cycle, I activate the ABS which I was told to do. > > > > > > Could be that after replacing the pads, the gap between > > > piston-pad-disc has to be taken up by the hydraulics by pumping > > > a few times (about 20 or so). Until this is done you may have > > > long pedal travel before contact. > > > > > > Or is it spongy brakes you're experiencing? In which case we're > > > probably talking about air in the hydraulics. > > > > > > So we have a better of idea of the level of fix done, can you tell a bit > > > about the bleeding technique? With air pressure from the reservoir, > > > or the "two-person push-open-close-release method"? > > > > > > /Robert > > > > > > > > >

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