Date: 6 Sep 2003 20:08:36 GMT From: Dave Hinz <davehinznopsamcop.net> Subject: Re: Saab Complaint
On Sat, 06 Sep 2003 18:50:56 GMT, milt brewster <milt73nopsamc.net> wrote: > In article <bjat1j$h21m6$1nopsam34476.news.uni-berlin.de>, > davehinznopsamcop.net says... >> >> What is your intention here, to start a cross-brand flamewar? > > No. I asked because it wouldn't be the first time. Why include Toyota and Honda groups then? (I've chosen to remove them from my followups) > It was my intention to report a serious problem with an expensive > new car that should not have had a serious problem, in a public > forum where other people would read it and think about this > experience before they make THEIR expensive new car purchases. What, that you had bad luck with two tires? > I expected most of the snippy comments I've seen here. I was a > Saab enthusiast, too; but that doesn't mean Saabs are perfect, or > that the Company that builds them are above doing things that are > worth complaining about. When you go throwing terms around like "criminal", blaming Saab for your blowouts, it's hard to see how that sort of language isn't inviting "snippy comments". > I still made my point: ANYONE thinking about buying a Saab > should consider whether they want to have TWO blowouts in the > space of five months in their expensive new car. Yes; they should also consider that they could drive down the same roads, with a new Lexxus, Mercedes, Yugo, Trabant, Ford, Chevy, or Dodge and get exactly the same thing. > Saab has equipped a lot of their cars in the USA with Michelin > tires that might very well be faulty, as Ford found a few years > ago with their SUVs. I must have missed the part about those being Michelin tires; maybe Michelin is French for "Firestone"? One guy whining about 2 tires, does not a trend make. Much more suspect is your car's alignment, driving environment, or tire pressure habits. > If Usenet newsgroups are worth anything at > all, they are worth publicizing potential recall problems like > this. Have you talked (calmly) to anyone at Saab about your concerns? > As for the rest of your post (not snipped) I don't think it's > helpful at all Maybe you should read it again then. I'll clarify the points you chose to avoid. > -- except to note that I check my tires very > carefully after my first blowout, did not hit any potholes Any? Wow. Where do you live again that there aren't any potholes? > or > make other foolish mistakes, and that you seem to be as snippy as > you think I am. Oddly, I seem not to be the only one who seems to have formed that opinion. > Emotional denial is the first refuge of the childish. Indeed. >> > All this is not just expensive or unacceptable. It is criminal. >> >> What was the cause of the blowout? Did you have your pressures >> set properly? Does your car have an alignment problem? Are you >> trying to solve the problem, or just complain about it? How is the alignment on your car? You *did* have it checked before throwing words like "criminal" around in a public forum, right? >> > No car, no matter how intelligently designed and built, is worth >> > this. I paid extra for a Saab, precisely so I would not face >> > problems like this. >> >> What is the cause of this atypical problem with your particular >> car? Further, are you stating that this is a common problem for Saab cars in general, or your year/model in particular? Odd that others have not mentioned it here; people ask about a lot of things, and that's not one of them. I'll ask again. Are you trying to get something fixed, or are you just trying to blame a carmaker for "criminal" behavior without having, or giving all of the facts? Dave Hinz
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