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Date: Mon, 8 Nov 2004 22:09:59 +0000 (UTC)
From: "king doodle squat" <>
Subject: Re: Clutch master problem (I think)

if you are power bleeding the system it might be that there is blockage in the line, but reading your question, you don't say if you are trying the clutch pedal at the same time as the bleed. i know from recent bitter experience that when my 9000 clutch went, it sounds very similar to the problems you are experiencing. if the 9000 system was designed from a previous version (eg a 99 system), you might want to try this first before you get hammered for an expensive repair. see the link below & have a look near the bottom of the page, it seems to say that you need to try the clutch pedal during bleeding, hth kds :-) "Dave Hinz" <> wrote in message > On Mon, 08 Nov 2004 17:12:06 +0000, Grunff <> wrote: > > Dave Hinz wrote: > > > >> Questions: does this sound like master cylinder problems as I think? > > > > Very likely. > > Yes, with a "yes, but". See below: > > >> If so, could it be just a gummy hose between the reservoir and the > >> master, or is this a master cyl rebuild thing? > > > > Eh? I'm confused. My 99 (1978 Combi Turbo, the only 99 I ever worked on) > > had an integrated reservoir built into the master. Is this not the case > > with yours? > > Yes, this is a 3-door (Combi). It has vacuum-assisted brakes, and the clutch > slave cylinder looks very much like the one on my Sonetts - just the cylinder > lengthwise, a pipe on the top going forwards, rubber hose clamped to the > forwards-going pipe, that hose goes up to the bottom of the brake fluid > reservoir which sits on top of the brake M/C, which is on the front of the > vacuum servo. It looks like this: > > > I wonder if that hose (to the reservoir) is gummed up inside, which would > restrict it from getting fluid to the M/C. Reason I think this is when I > open the bleeder nipple and apply pressure at the reservoir, _nothing_ > comes out. Should it at that point (I'm thinking yes)? Also, the > turkey-baster method doesn't work on this car, which implies something > is blocking flow in _that_ direction as well. > > I took the slave cyl. out of the system, hooked my siphon hose to the end > of the clutch hydraulic line, and behavior was the same (pulls back as > I raise the pedal, almost always). So we're not pulling from the reservoir, > either because the MC is bad, or the hose is plugged. Any guesses? The > rebuild kit and the hose are about the same cost and not much different > in screwing-around to get at. (can't _see_, but can reach, the > hose on the m/c.) > > Dave >

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