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Date: Mon, 27 Jun 2005 15:30:21 -0400
From: Malt_Hound <Malt_Houndnospamm*yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: In What Year?..............


Paul Halliday wrote: > in article 42c04126$0$2041$ed2e19e4nospamnntp-reader04.plus.net, Teleman at > telemannospamamegremont.plus.com wrote on 27/06/2005 19:10: > > >>"Henrik B." <saabnospamPAM_tdcadsl.dk> wrote in message >>news:42c03ae3$0$13348$edfadb0fnospamd14.news.tele.dk... >> >>>"Teleman" <telemannospamamegremont.plus.com> skrev i en meddelelse >>>news:42c034d5$0$41909$ed2619ecnospamnntp-reader03.plus.net... >>> >>>>...........did GM take over Saab >>>>The reason i ask is i would like to buy the latest year >>>>model BEFORE the takeover (before the beancounters >>>>moved in) >>> >>>1989. >>>-- >>>---------------------------------------------------------- >>>Saab - Fordi livet er for kort til biler med dĀrlig sikkerhed! >> >> >>oh - i thought it was later than that -1994 ish? > > > It was much earlier than you think 1989/1990 sounds about right. They didn't > actually do much with SAAB mechanically, but SAAB was making a significant > loss until GM had to cut so many corners in management and the engineering > ... I'm sure someone knows the story much better than I do. > > The 900 model up to MY 1993 (1994 for the convertible) is regarded as the > classic 900 and a pure SAAB model. The 1994 onwards 900 is the often > regarded as the one that GM "messed with". So, if you're after a 900, then > the pre-1994 models are the ones to go for. With the later years, you should > be able to get all the comforts. The later light pressure turbo models are a > good lower power car and kind of a replacement for the old 8V turbos. The > 16V injection only models are also very good cars. The turbo models are the > better ones though, IMO. > > What about a 9000? They got much better after MY 1993. Face-lifted, direct > ignition, climate control, airbags ... In fact, all the good things that > went into the GM900 without the rubbish. The 9000 remained a very good car > right through to it's end of production in 1997. The V6 engines are not well > regarded in hindsight. SAAB do four cylinder turbos very well. The 2.3 FPT > with Aero styling is a very swish car. > > Paul > > 1989 900 Turbo S > http://saab.go.dyndns.org/ > I think your timeline is a little bit off, Paul. The 9000 facelift did happen in '93, but my '92 9000T already had ABS, SRS, DI, ACC, so that was not when these changes took place. I think these changes were already in the Trollhattan pipeline before GM got financially (and otherwise) involved. I would bet that GM had some input into the '93 9000 facelift though... The car became considerably prettier from the outside, but the rearward vision from the driver's seat became somewhat of a problem. Safety was obviously not the primary consideration of that facelift as SAAB designs had always been in the past (beauty be damned). FWIW, I seem to recall that GM bought an interest in SAAB in the late 80's but did not obtain a controlling interest until the early 90's sometime. -Fred W

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