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Date: 31 Jan 2006 18:14:28 GMT
From: Dave Hinz <DaveHinznospamcop.net>
Subject: Re: SaabUSA Biopower survey


On Tue, 31 Jan 2006 17:30:10 GMT, Bob <uctraingnospamanet.com> wrote: > On 30 Jan 2006 18:41:41 GMT, Dave Hinz <DaveHinznospamcop.net> wrote: > >>Please show me a credible cite showing that "we let all the Bin Ladins >>fly home...". Hint: you can't. Didn't happen. > How about the 9-11 commission as a credible cite? That's a great idea. You should read it before citing it when it contradicts your points, though. > A slew of Saudi > citizens (150?) and 20+ members of the Bin Laden family were allowed > to fly out in the week following 9-11 after cursory interviews by the > FBI. It happened very quietly. It's in the 9-11 Commission report. All > verified facts. If by "verified facts" you mean "completely contradicted by the very report you cite", sure. Here's a link with a good analysis. You're, no doubt, familiar with snopes.com? http://www.snopes.com/rumors/flights.asp > Read into it what you want, that's a political issue. I think the > Saudi's appreciated it. MHO. I think you should get the facts of what didn't happen before deciding why it happened. >>> But, the Arabian countries don't really sell oil to "us", they sell it >>> to the oil companies who jack the price >> >>You also don't understand how oil prices are set. Another free hint: >>futures market. > > I know about the futures market. I also know that regardless of the > price that the oil companies are paying when they actually exercise a > buy, they are all making obscene profits from jacking prices for > gasoline, fuel oil, and natural gas. You just said the oil companies jack the price. It's right up there a few lines. Now you're saying "Oh, they don't jack the prices, they're profiting". If you'd be so kind as to pick a point and stay with it, that'd be wonderful. >>So give money to the farmers instead, Bob. That's my freaking point. > Not bad... but there has to be a better reason than paying them not to > grow things. Bloody fucking hell. I'm saying to have them _grow crops for biofuels_, Bob. My bringing up the unused farmland was me showing that it's unused capacity that's waiting to be used. > There has to be a valid market and products. Don't expect > the current administration of ex- and current oil company executives > to be pushing alternate fuel development (again, not a political > statement, just a factual observation - it ain't gonna happen). Maybe you should punch the following into google and educate yourself: bush biofuels It's obvious you don't like anything to do with the oil industry. That's fine, that's your choice. But it sounds like your decisions are at least somewhat based on completely wrong information in some cases, and outright ignorance in others.

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