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Date: 29 Mar 2006 06:30:03 GMT
From: "sweller" <swellernospamch.fsnet.co.uk>
Subject: Re: [Saab_c900] saab tool page updated


Dave Hinz wrote: > >> Yup. And websites who develop and test only with IE on Windows need > >> to wake up and realize that they're sacrificing usability for > >> "cutesy bullshit". > > > I've found Firefox pretty crappy; especially in its ability to cope > > with the worst of the IE only pages but Opera can deal with most. > > So, Firefox is "pretty crappy", because it can't render broken webpages > as well as Opera? Wow. Way to lose focus on the problem there sparky. "I deny myself access to information to maintain my idealogical purity". It's almost Sovietesque ... > > Whilst not wanting to get into a browser spat I agree with the view > > that if a commercial organisation limits their audience by being > > browser specific then that's their loss but a lot of the information > > stuff I miss is my loss. > > (shrug) most of the stuff that isn't compliant is someone's special > effects rather than actual content. Blimey, you're now sounding all 1997 ... You're also wrong. It's not special effects or cutesy bullshit it's simply easier and quicker, unfortunately, for web designers to take the easy option (time is money and all that) and only cater for 80% of the browser market; so I have to work round them. Opera does this slickly Firefox doesn't. Both are free. One is better: simple really. As I said if its commercial that's their loss but the vast majority of the stuff I want to look at isn't and most of the big players work with any browser (which explains why they may be big players). As you can see we're broadly agreeing but without the self righteous "Firefox or Death!" approach. > > I also think it's less of the "cutesy bullshit" and more of the "it's > > easier" to take an IE only line. > > Great. As long as you're happy, that's all that matters. Don't forget > your security updates. I think you may be blinded by both your Linux OS (I see you use Slrn) and your idealogical purity here. Linux is many good things but a desktop OS is not one of them - Incidentally IME of both Suse and Red Hat the security updates came thick and fast for them too. -- Simon

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