Date: 9 Jun 2006 20:21:24 GMT
From: Dave Hinz <DaveHinznospamcop.net>
Subject: Re: bad drivetrain sounds (c900)
On 09 Jun 2006 19:05:17 GMT, John B <rotten_NOSPAM_nospam.org> wrote:
>
> I was thinking that if it is inside the tranny, could it be something to do
> with the shaft that has the gears on it and goes into the diff (I'm sure it has
> a technical name that I don't know)?
Output shaft but it's not that, because it'd be road speed dependant not
engine speed dependant.
>> Won't hurt but I think the above rules that out. Pilot bearing?!?!?!
>> Actually, let's think about that. The pilot bearing, on the end of the
>> clutch shaft, in the flywheel. Does that turn when you're hearing the
>> noise and as you describe?
> Not sure I know enough to answer that question.
Agreed. Something still isn't adding up yet. We'll get there,
hopefully before it announces itself to you.
>> One other thing I was thinkning - can you get the noise when the car is
>> just sitting still with the parking brake on? Would help diagnose it a
>> bunch, and eliminate the tranny/drivetrain side of things if so, and
>> reduces the options significantly.
>
> No, I haven't been able to do that. To hear it, the car must be (a) moving (b)
> in gear, and (c) clutch engaged.
But it's engine speed dependant. So then on the input side of the
tranny - drive chain to input shaft? Guys, jump in at any point here...
> It's not distinctly audible much over 2000 rpm, because the frequency becomes
> too fast to hear individual 'clicks' or whatever.
Right, I don't think the RPM matters so much as the fact that it's
engine speed specific.
> Can we derive anything from the frequency? It's roughly 4/5/6 per second around
> 1000-1500 RPM. This means that it's maybe once per every 4 revolutions of the
> engine, right? What is the ratio created by the drive chain? In other
> words, how many times does the transmission turn over for each revolution of
> the flywheel?
Depends. Which engine/tranny/Turbo did you say you have? And why can't
we hear the noise when the car is in neutral, if it's at that point?
Something still isn't adding up yet.
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