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But any vehicle will bottom under dynamic load
Posted by Noel (# 876) (more from Noel) on Mon, 6 Oct 2008 05:55:51
In Reply to: Re: Not sure whether sagging springs produce, steve, Sun, 5 Oct 2008 20:10:23

when loaded, especially if at or near max load. The suspension is intended to carry the weight of the dynamic load, and is supported by the unit body structure of a vehicle. The springs and shocks compress, ride height decreases (unless a car is equipped with a self-leveling suspension) resulting in less suspension travel. You hit bumps and dips in the road and the suspension bottoms out. This is normal. I used to load my old 1/2 ton truck with rocks. The back end went down when I did this. More when I loaded a whole ton. The truck did not like this!

Subframe deformation is not normal, but as all here have noted, may have multiple contributing causes. But maybe it's not the subframe's fault.
I can envision the spring rates being too low (either by specification or manufacture) so that they compress under load more than they should. Then when the suspension bottoms out the weight of the load is transferred to the subframe which is not meant to bear the dynamic load continually or directly, because that's the job of the springs and shocks. In this example, whether the subframe is defective or under-designed is open to argument.

Or look at it another way. Maybe the max load capability for the vehicle has been misstated. If that is the case, owners could be unknowingly overloading vehicles. Seems equally possible to me.

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