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caveat emptor applies
Posted by dref (more from dref) on Mon, 18 Jun 2012 09:26:39
In Reply to: Any suggestions for Enviro Safe, DAO, Mon, 18 Jun 2012 07:38:30

Been there done that a couple/ 3 years now.
Initial results were Great! Surprisingly Cold air on demand, like never before.
Liked it so much that I 'upgraded ' 2 more Saabs I had then.
Note that these were R134 equipped ..Not.. R12 which is a different animal.
A months or so later the charges started leaking out.
I Have NOT been able to stem the leakage.. period.
Tried everything except the wholesale throwing of hard parts at it..which I refuse to do, on a $1500 car.
IMO and it's only an idea/ suspicion is that the Butane, despite being under lower pressure seems to seep out through the fittings/hoses, Where the R134a, despite being at higher pressure, previously never did!
Again: I suspect that the R134A fittings/seals are somehow not effective with the Butane gas.
According to the claims of the Duracool twits; Duracool / Envirosafe/ Redtek/ Butane :-) is a 'larger' molecule !?.
They claim it doesn't leak near as easily.
My experiences suggest the exact opposite.. grrr.

Short answer: Yes it cools v nicely. Only when the charge is Full.
But keeping a full charge is essential and 'at least' a monthly top up will be required for as long as you need the AC to work.

Do what you feel you need to, but go into this with eyes open.

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