British Press have another pop at Viggen - Saab Performance Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

Performance Bulletin Board
[Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main Performance Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
British Press have another pop at Viggen
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Penport (more from Penport) on Wed, 29 Nov 2000 15:15:15 Share Post by Email
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

The following appeared in my Daily Telegraph here in the UK recently - I thought I would share it with all you nice "Yanks" ...



<<LAST year, with considerable regret, I wrote a highly critical "First Drive" report on the Viggen, Saab's high-performance image booster. Well, that was what it was supposed to be

I was not alone in finding the car worse than disappointing, and now the Viggen has been quietly dropped in Europe, after fewer than 2,000 had been sold worldwide, of which 427 found their way to British owners. Sales continue in the USA, but there's nowt so queer as Yanks.

This is a very short run for an international car maker, even a specialised one such as Saab.

Viggen, a name also used for Saab jet fighters, is Swedish for "Thunderbolt", but this one has fizzled out like a damp squib. Saab still boasts of its high-tech aero associations, although there is no longer any connection, other than the name and the badge, between plane maker and car maker. It should produce the hardware (and software) to back its braggadocio.

The Viggen, despite its fabulous engine (probably the best turbocharged four-cylinder anyone has made) and generally high standard of build quality, damaged the image not only of Saab, but also of TWR, which apparently believes that suspension tuned for hot laps of Silverstone is acceptable on public roads (though I suspect that the Viggen would be a trifle too hot for comfort even on a race track). Cranking up suspension stiffness to denture-rattling level does not make a car sporting: it simply makes it uncomfortable.

Why was the Viggen introduced without traction control? One can readily understand that four-wheel drive was ruled out for cost reasons, but - especially for front-wheel-drive cars - ESP (Electronic Stability Programme) or something equivalent is now essential for high-torque models: it may be possible to extrude 252lb ft through the front wheels of a road car without such a system and still achieve acceptable handling, but no one has yet done so. It must be said that an elderly Cavalier chassis was probably not the best kit to start with.

Ironically, some time after Viggens began trickling out of Valmet's factory in Finland, standard-issue traction control was added. It is conceivable that this system transformed the car, but even if it was not too little, it was certainly too late. Saab has revised its model line-up after axeing the Viggen: the Aero has been given slightly more power and a slightly more Viggenish appearance.

However, Saab's thunder, as the innovative, high-tech, sporty Swedish company, is at risk of being stolen by Volvo. Saab is still the world leader in turbocharged petrol engine technology, but if it is not to disappear (or follow the dismal fate of Vauxhall and merely assemble badge-engineered Opels), it desperately needs a credible image-booster. Let's have Viggen II, but this time with ESP from the start, and a chassis engineer worth his salt. >>


'94 900 SET 94K (and one time hopeful owner of a Viggen - but I'm not so sure now - my dreams have just been shattered)


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!