The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 7/1: Members: Log In to See Fewer Ads! | 5/28: SAAB Evolutions/TSN T-Shirts $14

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

9000 Bulletin Board
1985-1998 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main 9000 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Re: .. I'm mooching dead BPC's ..
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Dexter J (more from Dexter J) on Sun, 29 May 2005 15:22:57 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: .. I'm mooching dead BPC's .., Hoke, Sun, 29 May 2005 12:34:44
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

Salutations:

Not necessarily - but it is often the case and it relates to how the BPC fails.

The BPC shares it's hot wire (#2) between two solenoids. One of the solenoids has both it's wires (#3 and #2 split) routed over an internal air vent to the wastegate.

I think this disturbs the airflow such that the control disk favours the wire side vent and eventually it cuts a groove in the vent ring over time (hard steel disk - brass vent ring).

Sooo - in not to long a time - it cuts enough meat out of the vent ring to let the disk come out of the vent and chafe through the wire - then starts cutting the wire and fusing the wire jackets. It's a pair of single wires in cloth and rubber - but by the time anyone opens them up to find out - it's just a greasy rag tube, some powder and two exposed and very brittle wires down the middle with a notch cut out of the side.

In some cases, it would cut the power wire first and I suspect then tilts the disk up against the solenoid case and feeds 12v directly back to the APC on the control circuit (#1 or #3 BPC pin).

In other cases, it cuts the control wire and simply fails to base boost - (#3 BPC pin goes dead) - until it works it's way out so more and cuts the 12v wire and then eventually cooks out the lower solenoid or APC as above.

It's a crap shoot and why I think it is really wise to pull the loom connector when you start to get erratic boost. You know its happening when your BPC starts to buzz a lot noticeably at idle. That is the control disk cutting, then riding in, the groove.

Usually - you get erratic boost for a bit - then base boost. Squirting anything that can close the circuit (say brake cleaner) in there, I think at least, actually helps short it (and everything else) out more quickly.

It should be a very dry environment in there normally.

Anyway - the only way to tell for sure is to test the loom connector for resistance when grounded to the chassis - I think Bazil Burns said #1 and #3 female(s) on the loom connector show 0 ohms when your APC is wallyfux - infinite if it's ok. But it could be exactly the opposite - so check with him.

I'm working on mod'ing the BPC so that it doesn't float the control disk to one side in operation - which I think will make them last a lifetime because it would then be a frictionless valve as, I think, it was designed to be in the first place.

It is almost like two people who didn't speak to one another did the drawings for a third person manufacturer.

Again - if you have a dead BPC to contribute to the research, it would be greatly appreciated. I'll pay for shipping to my bench. Flag me through the site below.

Dexter J

posted by 24.222....

http://www.dexterdyne.org


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!