The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 7/1: Members: Log In to See Fewer Ads! | 5/28: SAAB Evolutions/TSN T-Shirts $14

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

9000 Bulletin Board
1985-1998 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main 9000 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Check your OBD2 code(s)
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by sam96CS [Email] (#852) [Profile/Gallery] (more from sam96CS) on Sat, 18 Jul 2009 17:22:10 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: '97 Aero flashing cel, John G, Sat, 18 Jul 2009 15:01:59
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

You have a '97, so it has an OBD2 system. You need to get the code checked by connecting an OBD2 reader to the port located under the steering column. If you don't have a reader, then your local auto parts store may let you use theirs for free.

My guess (guessing can be very bad and expensive) is that your computer has detected a misfire condition. It is capable of detecting misfires so random or intermittant that you don't notice them.

Having the code isn't the same thing as having the cure. A misfire could be spark plugs, DIC, vacuum leak or low compression. The code doesn't point directly to the problem, but it narrows the possibilities. Even if the code points to a particular cylinder, you still have detective work to do.

Regarding your new NGK's, you have the right plug, but not necessarily the right gap. The "11" suffix designates a gap of 1.1 mm (about .043"). You should have gaps more like .038". I don't know what a stage 3 ECU translates into in terms of maximum boost, but it is probably 20 psi or more. The higher the boost, the harder it is for the spark to jump the gap. That is made worse if the spark plug gap is out of spec on the wide side.

By the way, did all of the old plugs look normal? NGK has great pictures of plugs under various conditions at http://www.ngksparkplugs.com/tech_support/spark_plugs/faqs/faqread.asp?mode=nml

Regarding your new DIC, did you smear a dab of dielectric grease on the end of each boot? Electricity seeks the shortest path to ground. It will happily travel down the outside of the plug's ceramic, especially if the ceramic got dirty when you installed the plugs. Dielectric grease discourages such unwanted electrical misbehavior.

There are 3 types of misfires. Types 1 and 3 are intermittant and make the check engine light come on steady. Type 2 is a constant miss which is severe enough to damage the catalytic converter. That's the kind of miss that makes the Check Engine light flash. The flashing light means your problem could cause a more expensive problem if it is not corrected quickly.

Depending on the code reader, you can also retrieve freeze frame information from the car's computer that tell you what the driving conditions were when the most severe code occurred.

You should also use the reader to check the status of your OBD2 monitors, which are diagnostic computer programs that check the operation of each emissions-related component or system. A monitor whose status is "not run" could point to a problem area, or it could be not run because you recently disconnected the battery or used a code reader to extinguish a code. The catalyst monitor is especially bad about not running, and I have yet to find out how I have to drive to make this evil monitor run.

Whatever you find when you hook up an OBD2 reader you can look it up at this message board or post it for somebody to explain.


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!