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different experience with Subaru
Posted by James [Email] (more from James) on Tue, 1 Dec 2009 05:18:25
In Reply to: Sounds a lot like a, No Snaab, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:36:25
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You seem to really like that Outback. I've heard many say Suby is the new Saab, and there are many parallels on paper. I'm guessing you've got a stick?
We had considered Suby as our possible #2 (vs 9-5) if we were going to get another car. We did extended test drives (3000 miles, 1 month vacation rentals, lots of highway) of both 08 Legacy + 09 Forester (couldn't get Outback per se). I really wanted to like them. As hard as I tried I couldn't. My wife hated them too (especially the Forster - she drove it for an hour + refused to drive it after that, and she is generally very tolerant re cars). Suffice it to say, Audi + Volvo just moved way up on our list.
Fit + finish is good, engine design looks good (weight low), nice AWD... but seats + ergonomics were poor, and worse still, the 4 speed automatic transmission was horrible (bad gear ratios) + the 2.3L has no low end torque (like most Asian cars). Both cars were awful to drive on the highway and got terrible fuel economy (crap tranny + awd). Now, the 5 speed should be better + 2010 Legacy will have a CVT which may keep it in the torque band + improve fuel economy, but the existing slushbox models didn't do it for me at all. I've heard Suby fans say the same.
FWIW, I recently did the same drive in a 2004 9-5 arc and got more than 10mpg better fuel economy than either subaru with 100x the comfort + 100x the driving enjoyment + performance (so much less effort to pass on the highway). In short, the 9-5 is effortless... a dream on the highway! If half the Suby drivers test drove back to back with a 9-5, this thread (and all other threads about the impending demise of saab) wouldn't exist! Imho, most Suby fans are Suby fans because they haven't driven a Saab.
I'm not trying to detract from your experience - I'm genuinely happy to hear someone has made that transition + is happy with it - just trying to relay my differing experience... ie, just my opinion... ymmv...
James...
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Posts in this Thread:
- If not a SAAB, then.....what?, 9-3 Talladega, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 09:54:23
- Buick (+), vvk, Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:19:31
- NOT a GM product..., Henri L, Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:14:36
- Then I'll get a TurboX on the cheap, AdamB
, Wed, 2 Dec 2009 08:13:12 - If SAAB goes belly up..., Alex, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 17:00:34
- I'm already shopping CPO Audi A4 and BMW 3 Series..., Sebastian, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 12:08:16
- Two wheels but my 9-5 stays, BrianG, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:48:34
- Keeping my 9-5 Aero wgn, just bought a BMW 335d, Paul H, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 09:35:18
- SAAB...."I don't want to go on the cart"., RobsSaab, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 07:06:50
- Re: If not a SAAB, then.....what?, coggs, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 05:54:04
- Jaguar XF, houstonsaabs, Tue, 1 Dec 2009 04:09:18
- 3 series BMW or Mini Cooper S, eric, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 21:44:56
- Hate to say it but ...., DivrDon
, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:45:57 - Chevy Volt Electrons are the future.. n/m, Steve, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 20:08:38
- Why are we picking out our next cars post-SAAB?!?, turrbo
, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 19:45:50 - something from zee Deutschland, Trev, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:29:30
- Not Audi, but an MB and a Porsche, dw, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 18:21:03
- Re: If not a SAAB, then.....what?, AeroLady, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 16:52:17
- alfa romeo 159 sportwagon, don_young
, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:56:58 - Re: Volvo or Mercedes-Benz..., Dano in Texas
, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:54:17 - Peter Egan mobile..., Mike Lynch
, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:53:39 - CPO Mercedes wagon, JMF, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:44:29
- Re: If not a SAAB, then.....what?, Lawrence, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:38:34
- IDK -- my 9-7 lease is up in January - BMW? Acura?, Pete Saab 9-7 9-3, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 14:04:59
- Subaru Outback n/m, sonique, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:13:35
- Audi, B Millar
, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:11:14 - Depends on which car we're replacing., Noel, Mon, 30 Nov 2009 13:02:34
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