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Re: We have met the enemy...
Posted by Tim (more from Tim) on Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:19:07
In Reply to: We have met the enemy..., No Snaab, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:10:42
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Given the maturity of Internal Combustion Engine car technology nowadays, a new car purchase can not be justified on ordinary rational grounds. It's like taking a vacation to Hawaii or having a cake (for breakfast). Very reliable transportation appliances are readily available among used cars. Carmakers have to connect with some irrational aspects of the consumer's brain to make a new car sale:
1. BMW, MB, Lexus (and to a lesser degree Audi, Accura, Infiniti, etc.) covers that angle from "bragging rights" / vanity, and/or the very real benefit of business/personal relations that can be derived from a new showy/statement car.
2. Toyota and Honda profit from people, especially women and business people buying vehicles for work, who can't afford the time/safety factor involved in breakdowns, even though car breakdowns are extremely rare nowadays with modern cars. There is an irrational fear involved there. I fell for that one once and bought the Highlander when my 9-5 turned 3yrs old, as my business was growing rapidly, and we were getting ready for our first child. The 9-5 is almost 10yrs old now, and it still runs very well. Knock on wood.
Both points are more about perception than reality: how people perceive the cars and brands (and their own personal needs), not necessarily how the cars themselves are. Saab was somewhat missing the boat on both accounts, thanks to the GM connection. GM managed to alienate even the "practical" eccentrics by discontinuing the hatch. Saab's slow product development and bad timing didn't help: introducing SUV's when the fad ended; introducing convertible in winter, AWD SUV/cross-over in summer.
The support group here is by definition not predominated by new car purchasers, although visiting this site more than a decade ago (when Scott still ran the server out of his apartment) did influence my purchase of my first new Saab, the '01 9-5 wagon. In the years to come, if cars become more electrically involved, ownership cycles may well shorten due to battery dying and electronics advance faster than ICE technology. Components will also become more modular, just like computers have become. Saab's marketing position of using evocative designs to get the first-owners in the door through lease deals, then have an army of second-owners to tinker with the cars on resale to help hold up residual value may well be a winning strategy.
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Posts in this Thread:
- We have met the enemy..., No Snaab, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:10:42
- Re: We have met the enemy..., TML
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 06:35:23 - Beautiful cars, no doubt, john b, Mon, 28 Feb 2011 18:16:52
- what would be irresistable?, LesH, Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:22:45
- Needs, preferences, cash flow, etc., Noel, Mon, 28 Feb 2011 08:43:48
- I'm not the enemy..., Stan, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:00:12
- Bravo, No Snaab, Mon, 28 Feb 2011 07:13:13
- Re: We have met the enemy..., Tim, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 14:19:07 <-- Viewing This Message
- what would it take to put you in this car today?, DE
, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:48:36 - The new 9-5 is too big for me..., MI-Roger
, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 12:13:27 - I need smth small, fast, safe and quirky: C900 MY'12, Siegfried, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:44:34
- Re: We have met the enemy..., EGD
, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 11:26:39 - Re: We have met the enemy..., kkelley, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:41:48
- I'm among the worst... I know..., James, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:28:08
- Re: We have met the enemy..., SWEDECAR
, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:50:37 - Not to stereotype..., B Millar
, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 09:30:23- New 9-5s all over the place in LA?, ryan
, Mon, 28 Feb 2011 21:12:16 - Agree, too, Stan, Mon, 28 Feb 2011 12:14:34
- agreed, Railhead
, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 18:04:29 - Re: Not to stereotype..., John Myers, Sun, 27 Feb 2011 10:14:00
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