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it is ursaab 2011...
Posted by James [Email] (more from James) on Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:07:56
In Reply to: Photos from Geneva of the new Saab PhoeniX concept, NCCaniac
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, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:01:22
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that's my impression of what Castriota is doing with this... goes in the Saab museum as a design reference. I can't say I get too excited about concept cars when they are far fetched (like this and the AeroX)... that said, I suppose it's out there to attract interest, generate discussion, and provide some level of design feedback.
Some thoughts:
- it is interesting that they are dropping the Griffin badge in favour of the older logo (maybe only on this car though?). I kinda like the Griffin... I'm not old enough to have owned one of the "real" classics! At least there is no paint to peel!
- it is cool that the cockpit is "stripped down" to feel like a rally car... many have wished for some element of that in the new cars (eg a la Lotus)... emphasis on cockpit simplicity and that it wraps around the driver is a good thing imho!
- the Android based interface sounds interesting... particularly if it enabled one to make an app for (in car!) diagnostics etc ;-)
- I like that the windshield is getting pretty close to a real wrap-around windshield like on a c900...
- I also like that if you took the "winglets" off, it looks like a fast hatchback (not hard to resculpt into a real hatchback)... all the while, the back end is reminiscent of the ursaab without looking old fashioned...
- low drag coefficient (0.25), a historic quality...
What I don't love about it (considering it as design language + not going into production):
- no clamshell hood... every new car has to have "muscular" wheel arches that make a clamshell hard to do... imho NG 9-5 shoulda been clammy...
- too busy
- yet another headlight/tail light iteration... I really like the current 9-5 + 9-4x tail lights!
The independence day vert looks really sharp + I really like how the 9-3 has evolved aesthetically... To me, the Griffin editions of those look the most Saaby of any of the recent cars, all they really need is a hatch! To be honest, I think the new 9-3 could have done well moving evolutionarily from those Griffin cars but with a hatch, hybrid, iqon, exwd, etc...
I suppose I was hoping for a different sort of concept, but I'm not surprised by this given Castriota's background... will be interesting to see the new 9-3 design a year from now...
James...
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Posts in this Thread:
- Photos from Geneva of the new Saab PhoeniX concept, NCCaniac
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:01:22- Just what Saab needs, Ryan H, Sat, 5 Mar 2011 16:11:47
- Explanations of PhoeniX features and hints.of new 9-3, NCCaniac
, Wed, 2 Mar 2011 08:54:30 - Drivetrain & Android inside, BrianG, Wed, 2 Mar 2011 07:54:23
- Yup, Tim, Wed, 2 Mar 2011 11:42:23
- Looks like an Alfa Romeo "BAT" concept., pushrodsaab, Wed, 2 Mar 2011 03:44:21
- love it, kaslop, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 16:53:02
- I dislike all of the copying from the old cars, Sl, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 15:38:22
- Like the hatch and targa top, electric suppletary drive, Tim, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:52:35
- There seems to be two Jasons, Bruce, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:08:08
- it is ursaab 2011..., James, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:07:56 <-- Viewing This Message
- holy freaking clamshell!, James, Fri, 4 Mar 2011 07:33:02
- Griffin, turbocon86, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:27:46
- the new cars probably will have the Griffin badge..., James, Wed, 2 Mar 2011 06:40:32
- So cool!!! (nm), turrbo
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 20:36:02 - Re: Griffin, James, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 13:15:33
- Great eye! That. Is. Awesome. n/m, Clay McNeely
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 12:57:44
- Re: Photos from Geneva of the new Saab PhoeniX concept, Justin VanAbrahams
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 11:29:48 - PhoeniX vs. Aero-X, NCCaniac
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:48:24 - noooo not lambo doors... NM, Mark from Toronto, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:22:46
- Official Saab press release with more information, NCCaniac
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 08:06:17 - Groan! Looks like something out of a video game!, Noel, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:57:56
- Don't think new 9-3 as much as new Sonett?, NCCaniac
, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:42:09 - baby of AeroX and Civic, lol :) (n/m), Siegfried, Tue, 1 Mar 2011 07:13:53
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