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Posted by jeff in MD really (more from jeff in MD really) on Mon, 24 Sep 2012 08:08:04
In Reply to: What exactly you do not understand ..., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:53:10
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You're claiming that the additional electricity required by Volt users would create more jobs vs. the oil imported from other countries required by regular cars? What about the port workers, tanker truck drivers, refinery workers, gas station attendants, etc? I jest a little bit but for you to claim that the Volt would have some sort of measurable net positive impact on job creation is really stretching it.
Now my turn for the snarky question - what do you not "get" about the fact that every Volt represents $7,500 in tax dollars (or loans which equal future tax dollars) which could have been spent on something else. How can you claim so surely that those dollars are being best put to use by subsidizing Volts?
As to your second point. The Volt is a luxury car because it's 1) expensive, and 2) functionally identical to something costing 1/2 as much.
I'm not sure what you're trying to say as far as a Cruze with prepaid gas. Are you claiming that with the Volt you're "prepaying" for energy and therefore it's fair to compare on price? A Volt is good for about 35 miles per day on electricity vs. gasoline. It also gets about 35 mpg. So at $4/gallon, driving those 35 miles every single day, you'll save about $1,500/year on gas (not counting the electricity costs). Over 10 years that's $15k in "saved" gas money. Whatever other miles you drive are on gas just like any other car. So perhaps if you drive it 10 years you'll break even vs. a Cruze. The government should not be subsidizing things with questionable 10 year payback periods.
More to the point, if minimizing transportation costs is your goal, then you shouldn't be driving a new car anyway. If driving the latest whiz-bang technology with the help of a healthy tax break on the backs of your fellow citizens is you goal, then the Volt is just the vehicle for you.
jeff
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Posts in this Thread:
- Chevy Volt outsells half of all US cars., JohnA , Sat, 22 Sep 2012 15:30:10
- Why gasoline wins, JohnA , Sat, 29 Sep 2012 19:29:35
- Front half or back half? n/m, Cmyles , Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:01:00
- Domestic electricity vs. imported oil., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 03:49:03
- By that logic, a sledge hammer can really add value, Tim, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:00:08
- Re: Domestic electricity vs. imported oil., Ben, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 20:19:41
- By that logic, a sledge hammer can really add value, Reality, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 15:29:43
- I pity you ..., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 18:54:17
- You don't want to be confused by facts, Tim, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 15:01:13
- You don't want to be confused by facts, Reality, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 19:59:57
- Here's a fact for you, Volt is cheaper than the Prius, No Snaab, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 04:54:38
- Uh oh! Tim and Reality are sharing identities again!, Noel, Tue, 25 Sep 2012 17:26:01
- Someone is pretending to be Tim and copying my posts, Reality, Wed, 26 Sep 2012 11:19:03
- actually, they DO have authorization, Tim, Wed, 26 Sep 2012 12:26:51
- Re: actually, they DO have authorization, TML , Thu, 27 Sep 2012 01:02:59
- There, Ridiculous has committed Identity Theft, Tim, Thu, 27 Sep 2012 00:05:33
- Re: There, Ridiculous has committed Identity Theft, Scott Paterson , Thu, 27 Sep 2012 11:01:34
- Identity, uniqueness, freewill, etc..., Snowmobile , Thu, 27 Sep 2012 06:45:45
- Re: Domestic electricity vs. imported oil., jeff in MD really, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 07:03:11
- Domestic oil vs. imported oil, JerseySaab , Mon, 24 Sep 2012 04:35:47
- Build ahead for downtime, + election year shenanigans., Norm9-5, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 14:19:38
- What I don't get is why people here hate the Volt, Noel, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:30:46
- Devil's Advocate: "Something like a $45,000 Cruze", Bill Homer , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:27:31
- The Volt isn't an ROI sell, Pete Saab 9-3 9-7, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 09:45:34
- I get all that, and the Volt is definitely overpriced.., Noel, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 09:02:51
- Some people are committed early adopters., Cary, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:51:27
- Re: What I don't get is why people here hate the Volt, JohnA , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 07:25:56
- Re: What I don't get is why people here hate the Volt, jeff in MD, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 06:51:05
- How many could they sell at a profit?, JerseySaab , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 05:58:14
- great spin, jeff in MD, Sat, 22 Sep 2012 16:53:06
- Re: great spin, friendofbear , Sat, 22 Sep 2012 21:14:41
- They want the "free" money, Reality, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 02:33:41
- big loss per car sold, saabsince 93b , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:28:45
- big loss per car sold, saabsince 93b , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:20:57
- Depends on how you account for the $$, Mark from Toronto, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 08:41:10
- GM's accounting is suspect, Bill Homer , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:18:55
- the analysis, saabsince 93b , Sun, 23 Sep 2012 10:36:58
- Similar analysis will result in $200k losses on 9-5s., dmz789qqq, Mon, 24 Sep 2012 06:39:48
- Google, Norm9-5, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 15:10:06
- The analysis is hugley biased, Noel, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 13:50:55
- Re: the analysis, Simon S, Sun, 23 Sep 2012 11:53:16
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