The Camero and Trans Am are really interesting cars. The engine is an obsolete pushrod V-8, the suspension is obsolete (especially the rear suspension and drivetrain), the cowl is high and hard to see over for medium to short height people, the seats are unsupportive, and the interior looks cheap. Theoretically, it shouldn't appeal to anyone, but it does. There's a part of it that even appeals to the European car guys in most of the car magazines. Read any car mag article about the Camero or Trans Am; the author will slam the car for its obsolete engine, suspension, and cheesy interior, but at the end they usually say something like, "Despite its shortcomings, the Camero/Trans Am can be entertaining and fun to drive." I think there is a recessive gene in most Americans that is a legacy from America's love affair with the V-8 engine in the '50s and '60s. There's something in most of us that still likes the sound and feel of a big old American V-8 hauling a** down the highway. There really is nothing like it anywhere else in the world. If you've never driven an American V-8, try it - I think you'll like it. And this from a guy who hasn't ever owned a car with an American V-8, but I've driven lots of them owned by friends and relatives. I'm not saying that you'll want to own an American V-8 car, but it is a unique experience. Don't get me started about a friend's 1969 Dodge Charger that I had a chance to buy in the mid '70s, but passed on!

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• can our cars really compete?, ben, Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:11:14
  • sorry , i didn't mean to make the largest thread ever n, ben, Thu, 14 Mar 2002 00:15:00
  • The 97 Dodge minivan I have been driving has, ....., GM, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:58:10
  • 200Hp VAN... so what? With all that drag... NM, Coolknight, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:53:24
  • Re: can our cars really compete?, ~ben, Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:19:41
    • Re: can our cars really compete?, Steve L, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:29:55
    • there logo is minivan that rides like a sports car nm, ben, Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:21:47
      • And Pontiac builds excitement..., Randy Thatcher , Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:23:11
        • Pontiac's are kinda of fast! and yes i have drove one n, ben, Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:27:48
          • ...too bad they are built like crap, Luis, Tue, 12 Mar 2002 22:55:06
            • Pontiacs, Randy Thatcher , Tue, 12 Mar 2002 23:02:52
              • Re: Pontiacs, paulh, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 08:40:52
                • Re: Pontiacs, Camm , Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:12:08
                  • Re: Pontiacs, Sieglo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:51:32
                  • Re: Pontiacs, Rob 85 Turbo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:29:26
                    • Trans Am, Randy Thatcher , Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:33:47
                      • hmmm, Rob 85 Turbo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 09:46:49
                        • Re: hmmm, Steve L, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:46:41 <-- Viewing This Message
                        • Whoa!! Ders a whole lotta stereotypin goin on heah!, Texron, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:34:26
                          • Re: Whoa!! Ders a whole lotta stereotypin goin on heah!, Rob 85 Turbo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:04:20
                            • No offense taken. Just trying to see if I could squeez, Texron, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:30:28
                              • Re: No offense taken. Just trying to see if I could squeez, Rob 85 Turbo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:03:26
                        • Trans Am built around the cigarette lighter..., The Bandit, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 10:46:01
                          • And when the trans-am dies...., Dave Westlake, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:27:00
                            • Ur pritty ignrent! Everybody nows that you, Texron, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 11:54:10
                              • I've always wanted to find an old Rolls Royce, Dave Westlake, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 13:23:57
                              • LOL! n/m, bluenose, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 12:27:29
                                • Re: LOL! n/m, MTN, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:14:45
                                  • Where in VA?, Ray L, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 14:42:35
                                    • Re: Where in VA?, MTN, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 15:29:25
                                      • I'm at ODU now, dave n, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:10:51
                                      • Re: Where in VA?, Ray L, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:51:51
                                        • Holy crapThis thread is so long it's falling off screen, KS, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 18:19:09
                                          • fffffffaaaaaaaarrrrrr beeeeeeee iiiitttttt froooommmmmm, Rob 85 Turbo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:09:39
                                            • What happens when it gets to the side?, Rob 85 Turbo, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:13:04
                                              • Maybe it spills over into the pontiac fan website... nm, Randy Thatcher , Wed, 13 Mar 2002 19:27:57
                                                • at least the server didn't crash n/m, Rob , Wed, 13 Mar 2002 21:17:38
                                                  • Just widen your browser window, Jim, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:02:32
                                                    • its too long! n/m, ~ben, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:18:24
                                                      • I though I'd try a reaaaaalllllllly long word n/m, RandallHThatcher1990SPG, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 23:54:29
                                                        • Not yet off the first screeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen!!! n/m, Jim, Thu, 14 Mar 2002 13:30:23
                                                          • Oh come, lets be responsible here guyzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz, Rob 85 Tuuuuuuuuuuuuuurbo, Thu, 14 Mar 2002 14:27:13
                                      • Taylor ham......Great with fried egg on a hard roll...., Dave Westlake, Wed, 13 Mar 2002 16:22:01

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