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Does more timing save gas and increase performance?
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Posted by drupchen [Email] (more from drupchen) on Thu, 18 May 2006 14:06:08 Share Post by Email
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What are the advantages/disadvantages of increasing timing on a turbo Saab? I'm not specifying which car, since I understand that the principles of any Turbocharged car are the same. Any real confident knowledge on this? It seems that the more timing, the better fuel economy and torque you get, but up to a point, since the turbo seeems to spin better with less timing. For example, setting base timing at 20 degrees BTDC and allowing it to remain at 20 BTDC up to whatever max psi of turbo boost you can acheive. As opposed to setting base timing at 20 degrees, then letting the timing retard as boost increases, to say about 10 degrees BTDC at full boost or so. All things equal, isn't more timing an aid in saving gas and getting more for your money also?

Can a person damage an engine by having too much BTDC at any given rpm or boost level? Engine knock and ping aside, because I'm assuming the car's pre-ignition sensors are functioning properly and not letting the car's engine detonate. I have understood that increasing timing also increase heat build up in engine, contributing to engine knock and ping. So, does performance start to drop off at a certain rpm, or boost level if one doesn't decrease timing as rpm's or boost levels rise? It seems with a Turbocharged car, increasing timing helps low end torque and spool up of turbo while top end boost suffers and vice-versa.

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