Date: Fri, 7 May 2004 14:06:08 -0500 From: "Walt Kienzle" <wkienzlenospam.net> Subject: Re: can't pass emissions - NOX too high
Changing to a lower octane is unlikely to make a difference, particularly since the car is designed to run on premium. Looking back on my recommendations, the vacuum "advance" (or in this case, retard) mechanism on the distributor is the first thing I would check. It is easily tested using a hand-held vacuum pump and vacuum gage available at any auto parts store. I even saw one at a Wal-Mart once for about US$30. If it is broken (doesn't hold a vacuum), it should be inexpensive to buy and easy to replace. Walt <cs> wrote in message news:mr0m90tdnia2865ppdtkcjuupu3s2vctpmnospamcom... > Walt, thanks for the reply. I'm not sure my car even has an EGR - not > all of these cars did, but then I'm not even sure what an EGR valve > looks like for this car, or where it is located As for octane, I am > running 93 - would changing to 87 make a difference? > > As far as the test procedure and/or dynamometer test, while they don't > tell you 'what up,' it appears that Ohio runs the car in the 25 MPH > range for several minutes (in adddition to taking a sample from the > exhaust). > > Your comments, re vacuum hose integrity are noted - while I have > replaced some vacuum hoses several years ago, it might be time to > replace them all, given the age of the car. > > I'll report back if/when I'm sucessful in getting the car passed. > > [snip] > >High NOx levels are related to the EGR system in most cases (disconnected or > >plugged for some reason). Changing to 89 or 87 octane is unlikely to give > >an improvement. The amount of NOx formed is directly related to the > >combustion temperature in the cylinders. The EGR system feeds exhaust gas > >back into the combustion chamber. Since exhaust gas is inert (or is > >supposed to be) it doesn't do anything to promote combustion and reduces the > >combustion temperature. My Haynes manual simply says that if there is a > >fault in the EGR system, a fault code will be stored in the LH-Jetronic ECU > >and a warning light is lit (as usual, not much help). Since you have a > >pre-DI model, maybe you can retard the timing by about 5 degrees to see if > >that would help. > > > >Here is another suggestion. The Haynes manual (it may be of help this > >time!) says that a vacuum advance diaphragm is used on your model year to > >retard the timing when the turbocharger is in operation. These things go > >bad - particularly after 16 years. Maybe this is the cause of your problem. > >In Illinois we have the same type of test where the car is run on a > >dynamometer at various speeds up to about 60 mph. If your test works the > >same way and this diaphragm is broken, this could be your problem. They > >used to just measure the emissions at idle; that kind of test wouldn't have > >revealed this problem. Was a dynamometer test performed on your car? > > > >The EGR and the distributor vacuum advance are both operated by engine > >vacuum; a check for cracked or loose vacuum hoses would also be beneficial. > >I hope this helps. > > > >Walt Kienzle > >1991 9000T > > >
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