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Date: Sun, 14 May 2006 21:00:16 +0100
From: Pooh Bear <rabbitsfriendsandrelationsnospamail.com>
Subject: Re: Regular gas in a 9.5?
Fred W wrote:
> Johannes wrote:
> >
> > Pooh Bear wrote:
> >
> >>Fred W wrote:
> >>
> >>
> >>>Richard Sutherland-Smith wrote:
> >>>
> >>>>>From there on out, you should probably use 89 octane in a linear.
> >>>>>There is no such thing as "90" octane in the US. It is 87 (regular), 89
> >>>>>(mid-grade) and 91 to 93 (super/premium) depending on location. The
> >>>>>small difference between the gas certified to be 89 (or better) and 90
> >>>>>is pretty insignificant. If you wanted to be anal about it you could
> >>>>>squirt in a few gallons of premium fuel every tankful of mid-grade, but
> >>>>>since the mid grade is at least 89 (most likely somewhat more) it is not
> >>>>>a very big deal.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>Interesting, ain't it, our petrols over here are all unleaded and are
> >>>>91, 96 and 98 octanes. My 9000 Aero likes 98 as recommended, but this
> >>>>is not available everywhere, so it usually runs happily on 96.
> >>>
> >>>Ricky,
> >>>
> >>>Your talking RON, and we rebel yanks are talking PON (Pump Octane
> >>>Numbers) which is RON+MON/2. So your 96 is our 89. But I'm not
> >>>entirely sure of the happiness of my SAAB's engine either way...
> >>>
> >>>What is perhaps of interest (and maybe this was the point of you post)
> >>>is that the bigger gap is between your "low grade" and your mid-grade.
> >>>Why anyone would pay a big premium for 2 points of octane is a
> >>>reasonable question.
> >>
> >>In the UK many places only sell 95 RON ( e.g. supermarkets ) with an
> >>alternative 'superunleaded' being 97-98.
> >>
> >>95 is fine for most cars but some perfromance vehicles get some extra
> >>performance from 97/98.
> >
> >
> > My 9000 2.0 LPT also runs better on Shell Optimax 97 or 98? Less likely
> > to stall at full acceleration. These premium fuels also have cleaning
> > agents which are beneficial.
>
> Can't say about your fuel market, but the gasoline in the US claim to
> have the same cleaning agents (detergents) these days regardless of
> grade. Of course each manufacturer claims to have the best compared to
> the competition, but do not differenciate premium anymore.
>
> I have not heard those claims of superior cleaning agents in "premium"
> fuels in over a decade. Back in the 60's and 70's it used to be a big
> marketing point...
In the late 80s here Shell advertised its petrol as having superior additives.
Unfortunately they didn't agree with all engines and some ended up with fouled
valves IIRC !
Graham
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