Date: Tue, 04 Jul 2006 21:28:13 GMT
From: Paul Halliday <pjghnospamyonder.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Saab 900 Intercooler Questions
in article DBAqg.92959$mF2.20646nospamsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net, Jeremy
at jerem43nospamnet wrote on 04/07/2006 21:56:
> Intercooler questions for the Fourth of July:
> 1. I was considering upgrading mine to a larger one later this year or
> early next year.
Well, not all stock intercoolers are the same. The later cars had a plastic
capped 9 row cooler which is more efficient than either the metal capped 9
row or the 15 row. It does still heat soak, but I have an idea which
involves moving the oil cooler ... See below.
> 1a. Anyone seen aftermarket intercoolers for the Classic 900t? (Group
> 9 had some, but Mr. Dale has closed up shop and sold the company. I do
> not know what the new owner will be doing with the site/store.)
Abbott Racing make a "chargecooler" which will fit into the stock location.
Theirs is further cooled by water.
> 1b. If you have, are there any that will fit in the OEM location with
> minimal custom work?
It would be better to provide increased airflow (or a fan) to the stock
intercooler. A mate of mine cooked up an intercooler fogging system, but he
already has a FMIC from a Volvo.
My thought is to move (or replace) the oil cooler to a more central location
in front of the radiator and install a scoop and pipe up to the stock
intercooler. My other thought it to cut into the bonnet and install a scoop
to force air down over the intercooler where that little plastic air dam
usually sits.
> 1c. Any thoughts about keeping it in the stock location verses putting
> a larger one below the bumper, behind the air dam? I know this would be
> an expensive option.
Unless you have the Airflow/Carlsson bumper skins, you'll almost certainly
have to remove/cut the lower airdam or grind off the towing lugs if you go
for a FMIC. Volvo 760 or SAAB 9000 intercoolers seem popular, but they are
not very efficient. Going for a FMIC will certainly involve custom pipe work
and perhaps "clocking" the turbocharger.
One of the cleanest installations I've seen is by Aussie Alex Reid:
<http://www.nospam/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=1448>
> 2. I already have one of each style of the OEM intercoolers in my parts
> bin at home. Is there any difference between the two?
There was a plastic capped 9 row and a plastic capped 15 row, as well as a
metal capped 9 row. I rate the plastic capped 9 row the most, but have no
empirical evidence :)
> 3. Any one ever upgrade the hose/pipes so that there is a uniform
> 3"/7.62 cm pipe/adapters throughout the system? Would there be any
> advantages to this?
Custom job ... Yes, there are advantages if you have a high flow charger.
There will be increased lag as well. It depends what you want ... Long
sustained top boost or fast spooling for short bursts?
> 4. I have a small cooling fan (6"/15.24 cm) that I am conteplating
> installing to get better airflow over it. Help or hurt? Any thoughts on
> this?
Great! Fit it behind the intercooler to pull air through it. Have it
actuated by boost, or if you're a little daring, drill and tap in a
thermostat (like on the radiator).
> 5. In an OEM install, does the litle metal/plastic deflector piece make
> a major difference in the performance of the intercooler? Mine is
> missing, but I have located two in a junk yard.
Send me the other one will ya :)
It's there for a reason, so I suppose SAAB must have found it makes a
difference. I've never had one on my current turbo and it's not on my
immediate list for procuring, but if I did get one, I'd put it on. Why not?
If you can get one easily, fit it.
Paul
1989 900 Turbo S
http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
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