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Date: Mon, 20 Nov 2006 18:16:30 -0000
From: "DervMan" <thedervmannospaml.com>
Subject: Re: Lifetime of Saab


"johannes" <johsnospamnospam-efitter.com> wrote in message news:4560BC6F.A3ED4AC7nospamnospam-efitter.com... > > > DervMan wrote: >> >> "john" <jsmith1456nospamo.com> wrote in message >> news:yj08h.56259$r4.1932nospamfe3-gui.ntli.net... >> > >> > "Greg Farris" <farrisnospam.org> wrote in message >> > news:ejpt5n$8tc$1nospamoron.nerim.net... >> >> In article <1163823344.249474.46450nospam2000cwa.googlegroups.com>, >> >> smaartaassaabrnospaml.com says... >> >> >> >> >> >>> >> >>>What country, Finland, Sweden? When was it retired from the police? >> >>> >> >>>If it is in good shape then it is. The engines last forever. . . >> >> >> >> >> >> No they don't. >> >> SAAB engines are no different from other engines in the category, and >> >> are >> >> subject to the same wear and failure modes as their counterparts. If >> >> anything, >> >> the turbocharged models run at typically higher IMEP and specific >> >> output, >> >> and >> >> should thus be subject to greater wear. >> >> >> >> I believe the reason behind the SAAB reputation for longevity is the >> >> pride in >> >> ownership that leads many owners to take excellent care of them, and >> >> as >> >> well to >> >> boast of their achievements in long-lasting reliability. After all, >> >> the >> >> 96 >> >> generation already had a reputation for fantastic longevity, yet they >> >> had >> >> a >> >> demonstrably inferior body design, leading to massive rust problems, >> >> and >> >> their >> >> engine was nothing other than a Ford V4, the same as used in the >> >> Taurus >> >> models, >> >> which did not benefit from any particular cult reputation. The >> >> gearboxes >> >> were >> >> notoriously short-lived, a tradition SAAB has unhappily managed to >> >> perpetuate >> >> through the model-years! >> >> >> > >> > Well OK. volvo and saab were very solid long lasting vehicles in the >> > 70's >> > compared to most stuff. especially when the alternative was english or >> > italian... >> > >> > If you bought one new you could expect 15 years of decent >> > motoring....with a Fiat you'd be getting the filler out after 5.... >> >> Months in many cases. > > Dunno, FIAT also uses galvanised rust free bodies these days. We're discussing old ones, though, innit? > Fiats may > brake down from mechanical reasons, however. My Croma (1987) was quite > durable for 10 years. But window frames rusted and a clutch repair seems > impossible to get right, Possibly due to incompetent main dealership. > (Competent servicing means a lot for durability). Interior plastics was > crappy as it warped and rattled, speedo and odometer stopped working. By the same token my Dad bought a Fiat in '75 about two weeks after I was bought. Said it was a great engine, strange handling, but fell apart inside a couple of years. -- The DervMan www.dervman.com

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