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Date: Tue, 26 Dec 2006 23:40:14 GMT From: Paul Halliday <pjghnospamyonder.co.uk> Subject: Re: Million Mile Saab 900 SPG
in article pf03p2tefa34r4ccct95j4fe7qh84rfd7cnospamcom, - Bob - at uctraingnospamanet.com wrote on 26/12/2006 20:26: >> <plonk> > > That's bullshit Dave, 'cause I know you're still reading. But now > you're stuck and you can't reply. Thanks for the laughs. I got "plonked" for my sentiments on a much similar matter. There were a couple more replies :) It's fine for people to put their fingers in their ears when they've had enough, but what is a shame is when people do so out of obvious party loyalty. Politics is changing so quickly - heck, I used to be a "lefty", but I have much more in common with our Tory party (the "right" .. Like your Republicans) than with our traditional "left" (Labour ... Tony Blair's wild bunch ... Like your Democrats). You're right Bob - stand up for what is right, good and founded in some basis of history which endowed those principles as something to be upheld. Leopards change their spots and when it all comes down to a single salient, condensed, considered fact, politicians are in it for themselves and nowhere more so than over the pond in the US. We're (the UK) fast following and I really think that's a shame ... I see that as the end of convincing politics in the UK. The last Gulf War was absolute testament to that fact. It doesn't matter what the quotes were and from which side of the political spectrum they came from - the fact of the matter was, it was an illegal entry, overthrow and take-over of a nation which benefited GWB and his corporations more than anyone else (and GB senior with his arms corporations). The sad shame of it all was the UK and some of our European cousins (and the Aussies) joined in on an ill-conceived crusade; some more jubilant than others. The fact of the matter is, the WMDs were sold to and developed by us (the UK for building a nice middle-east bloc against The Mad Ayatollah), so we knew they had them, but couldn't find them when we went on the witch-hunt ... Oh, and they still have not materialised. What a crock! Well, the Batha party certainly did us proud when BP needed a boost in the '70s, but cross the US by suggesting a move to the Euro to trade oil barrels, rather than US Dollars, then be prepared to be removed, tried and executed from crimes against "W". Funny that, Venezuela backed just the same motion and ... Oh, had a CIA backed military coup ... Ha, fucking, ha, which failed :) Oh, so did North Korea and wait for it ... Iran. Hmmm ... The "Axis of Evil" certainly seem to be a bunch who favour the Euro to the USD for the trade of oil. Now, wouldn't that just destroy a bunch of corporations owned by GB (Senior), particularly, and GWB? When it comes down to power production for the future, people like Dave are right - make your own power and stop having to over-throw "foreign regimes in nations that hate you", just for their oil. We seem to be a lot more receptive to the nuclear option in Europe, but the world has had a whole new can of worms has just opened with Iran. Why condemn them and impose sanctions? Why not help develop their nuclear fuel strategy and partner with them? Certain other nations states in the UN could do so as "concerned friends" and assure the UN, generally, of their abstinence from developing nuclear weapons - China, Russia and Venezuela spring to mind immediately; Venezuela particularly. Seasons greetings, all :) Keep burning that oil ... Paul 1989 900 Turbo S http://saab.go.dyndns.org/
