Date: Wed, 19 Sep 2007 16:27:44 +0100 From: Eeyore <rabbitsfriendsandrelationsnospamail.com> Subject: Re: Have Saab reintroduced hatchback yet?
DervMan wrote: > "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelationsnospamail.com> wrote > > DervMan wrote: > >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelationsnospamail.com> wrote > >> > DervMan wrote: > >> >> "Eeyore" <rabbitsfriendsandrelationsnospamail.com> wrote > >> >> > > >> >> > Unfortunately estate cars are noisier than hatchbacks. All your > >> >> > 'litter' in the back is also on show. > >> >> > >> >> Neither is true of the majority. Have you driven an estate in the > >> >> last five years? > >> > > >> > I've had no occasion to. > >> > >> So you base your argument on what they used to be like? > > > > In the absense of an alternative ..... > > On the other hand it would be like me trying to service a gas boiler. Have you tried ? I have. It's not difficult. It's pretty basic engineering after all ! > Years ago I used a camping stove, it can't be much different. Really ? > > You would after all expect an estate to be noisier from first principles. > Like the absence of an effective sound > > absence of an effective sound deadening barrier. > > Two points here. One is that improvement prevents the noise from getting > into the boot. How exactly. The road noise is still there. I dare say you can fit more sound deadening panels on the floor but hatches have that as well already. > Two is that many estates have a load cover anyway, which may > keep things quieter. The load cover is unlikely to be any more effective than a hatch's rear shelf and being bigger will let more sound through. > >> > How did they get quieter ? > >> > >> The same way everything else is quieter. Improved design, materials and > >> construction. If anything the improvement has been greater because they > >> were noisier to start with. > > > > So, have 9-5 estates got any quieter since their introduction ? So, have 9-5 estates got any quieter since their introduction ? Graham
