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have to join the chorus on this one ... Posted by John Fitzgerald [Email] ![]() ![]() ![]() In Reply to: I'm sure you are right, but >, Bill Davies, Wed, 2 Aug 2006 14:50:09 Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup |
as we've had six Saabs over the years, only two purchased new, and none of them burned oil. Not even a '73 96 bought used in '83 while living in the UK.
An '80 99 used to develope a slight oil leak through the valve cover gasket [mmm, nice fumes if you let it idle in the driveway very long] but I felt that was a function of block/head gasket design. Happened after a couple of years of driving with every head gasket I ever changed, over twenty years of ownership.
1986 9kT, new = never burned a drop in 12 years.
1987 9kT, used at 95k mi = gradually dripped a little, gaskets, never burned any
1997 Aero, used at 22 k mi = doesn't burn a drop [or leak - knock on aluminum] as of 109k mi
1997 CSE, used at 122k mi = drips from several gaskets, doesn't burn anything as of 204k mi
Used Castrol GTX until the mid '80's, Mobil 1 or other full sythetics since then. Usually 7500 mi intervals.
Can't say the same thing about the US mini-vans, trucks we've owned. All "burners" of varying degree. A '96 Chrysler Town & C minivan w/ staock v-6, bought used w/ 13k mi= burned a quart per thousand the whole three and 1/2 years we drove it. Frustrating, took it to the dealer while under warranty, and they gave me the same 'it's normal/fine/within limits' answer. Hmmm. Replaced that with a new 2001 Chev Suburban, 5.3 litre V-8. Mobil 1 from day one, burns about a quart in 5k or 6k mi [hey, at least it's better than the Chrysler, I'm thinking], burns a bit more when we're towing our big old '84 Airstream travel trailer [approx 9000 #] - maybe a quart per 2k or 3k mi.
I realize this is all anecdotal - that's the fun [and part of the value] of this site. it just reinforces my feelings of design quality/engineering on Saab vs American makes.
If GM, etc, keep improving engine build quality, great. Someday they'll be where Saab was in 1980.
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_______________________________________ John Burlington, Wisc '73 96 RHD sold after four years in Middle Barton, Oxfordshire, UK '80 99 bought new, sold after 20 years/192,000mi '86 9kT picked up at Trollhatten, sold after 12 years/approx 121,000 mi '87 9kT sold after 9 years/approx 174,000 mi '94 CSE given to my son after 8 years @ 245k; he sold it at 254k mi '95 Aero 146,xxx mi sold '98 CSE 248,xxx mi gave it away '97 Aero 317,xxx mi my daughter’s school car … gave away [we put 300k mi on it] still driving: '97 CSE 170xxx mi 'project car' for myself and my daughters to drive '07 9-3 2.0T 240xxx '08 9-5 191xxx mi my wife's daily driver and a couple of 'non-Saabs': '01 Suburban 201,xxx mi '03 BMW 330 Cic 84,xxx mi '14 Mercedes E350 103,xxx mi
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