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Posted by REM in Seattle (more from REM in Seattle) on Wed, 7 Apr 2004 08:51:09 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: How different is Mobil 1 Higer-Mileage Vehicle Formula, Pierre in Ottawa, Tue, 6 Apr 2004 21:48:02
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Having used Mobil 1 for a couple decades, it appears that some marketing genius just added "tag lines" to each Mobil 1 vicosity grade. For example Mobil 1 10W-30 is "Higher-Mileage Vehicle Formula". There is only one Mobil 1 10W-30, not a seperate 10W-30 for higher-mileage vehicles and a 10w-30 for low mileage vehicles. If you recall, in the early 1980's Mobil 1 had just two vicousity grades, 5W-30 and 15W-50. When Mobil 1 came out with a 10W-30 I called the Mobil 1 technical service people and was told that the 10W-30 was introduced because some many vehicle manufactures recommended 10W-30 but not 5W-30. Therefore, Mobil 1 changed the 5W-30 formula just enough to get a 10W-30 rating. In fact if you looked at the Mobil 1 data sheets at that time, the 5W-30 formula was at the higher limit of the vicosity scale for a 5-weight and the 10W-30 formula was at the low limit of the 10-weight specs. Although Mobil 1 has been reformulated a couple times, the new "tag lines" are merely marketing hype to differentiate the serveral viscosity grades now available in Mobil 1, not a new definition for the usefulness of the oils.


From the Mobil 1 (http://www.mobil1.com) site:

Q. What is Mobil 1 and why is it now called Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™?

A. Mobil 1 is a fully synthetic motor oil for automotive engines. It is made from a unique combination of high-performance fluids, including polyalphaolefin (PAO), plus the SuperSyn™ anti-wear system for protection under the most extreme use. Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is available in five viscosity grades:


Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ 10W-30 –
Higher-Mileage Vehicle Formula


Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ 5W-30 –
Newer Vehicle Formula


Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ 15W-50 –
Performance Driving Formula


Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ 0W-30 –
Enhanced Fuel Economy Formula


Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ 0W-40 –
European Car Formula

"Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ is truly a global formulation, exceeding the latest standards from the government, the oil industry and vehicle manufacturers. For instance, the appropriate grades of Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ exceed ILSAC GF-3, API Service SL/CF, European ACEA standards and Japanese valvetrain requirements. In addition, some viscosity grades exceed specific OEM standards. One example is Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ 0W-40, which exceeds Mercedes Benz's 229.3 specification. As a CF rated oil, Mobil 1 with SuperSyn™ can also be used in diesel engines calling for a CD oil."


REM in Seattle
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