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Re: GM chassis crap?
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Posted by MO [Email] (more from MO) on Wed, 15 Oct 2003 11:42:38 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: GM chassis crap?, Markusaab, Tue, 14 Oct 2003 13:46:36
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Mr. Cheers,

Spouting unfounded opinions is not what makes this site helpful. You're free to go anywhere you want and say anything you want, but you're not going to get a good response by coming to the 9-3 board and telling us 9-3s suck.

Saab was struggling financially long before the 9-3. They were struggling financially at the end of the C900 production cycle. That's why they dropped it and developed the NG900.

Next point...as much as you may hate to admit it, there's not much difference between Toyota/Lexus and Saab/Opel. Saab/Opel IS within the company. Saab and Opel are two divisions of a company called General Motors. Toyota and Lexus are two divisions of a company called Toyota Motor Corporation.

The fuss over the Daimler-Chrysler merger was a fuss about the business management, because people were suspicious that it would not be a true merger of equal companies, but a takeover of an American icon by a German company (and their suspicions may have been well-founded). The people who were fussing know very little about cars. Heck, I don't even know what you mean by "crossover crap". Oh, and by the way, Chrysler and Mercedes are now two divisions of a company called Daimler-Chrysler.

Yes, GM is trying to make money...or at least to avoid losing money. Same with Saab. Guess what? A company that doesn't make money doesn't stick around very long. What kind of company will Saab be when it's all said and done? Well, if they don't start making money, they'll be a dead company, that's what kind. Enjoy your Saabs while they last. You're a purist? Better start saving money...that's an expensive condition to suffer from. Saab stopped worrying about purists because there weren't enough of them around who were willing to spend that much money.

Torque steer again...as I said, compare apples to apples. Most front drivers don't have much torque, so they don't have much torque steer. The Maxima does...and a recent review had the following to say: "Torque steer, thy name is Maxima." Yes, they've solved the problem somewhat with the 9-5 and the 9-3ss. That's what advances in engineering will do for you. I'm not arguing that the 9-3 handles better than the 9-5 or 9-3ss; I'm saying that it's still a good car.

As far as reliability, the only consistent problem that will leave you stranded in the 9-3 is a DI cassette. Your 9-5 has the same DI cassette. Saab had some reliability issues with the NG900, and especially the V6, but they worked out the bugs before 1999, and they never offered the V6 on the 9-3. You may know someone who owns a 9-3, but hey, guess what...I own one myself! I know the car reasonably well, thanks.

I do read the 9-5 board on occasion. I have found useful information there on changing brake pads (thanks Dean) and on SID issues. I didn't post a message explaining why 9-5s are awful cars.

Matt
'99 base

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