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Posted by CWilson (more from CWilson) on Thu, 15 Sep 2005 15:13:05 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: VW's were all Italian designs in the late 70's, JimBlake [Profile/Gallery] , Thu, 15 Sep 2005 14:30:33
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Here is a site that claimes this is a myth. Of course, one never really knows...

"The Impulse JR design was originally intended for the VW Scirocco but was rejected by VW.

Isuzu Motors Limited commissioned Georgetto Giugiaro in 1978 to create the replacement for their sporty model 117 Coupe, which was also designed by Giugiaro in 1966. Giugiaro was presented with a rear wheel drive Isuzu Gemini (I-Mark) rolling pan and was given carte blanche to design the new sporty model Isuzu. In the late 1970's, Giugiaro had been experimenting with variations of a wedge shaped design, and had named several successive wedge designs for the aces of the four houses in a deck of cards (hearts, clubs, diamonds, and spades). These are throught to be the Audi Quatro, Delorean DMC, BMW M1, and the fourth and final of the series, the Ace of Clubs, was the prototype that would become the Isuzu Piazza and Impulse. Giugiaro had previously penned the original design of the VW Scirocco in 1974, though it was extremely primitive by comparison to the Aces cars, especially the Clubs car, which incorporated much more sophisticated styling cues including radiator grille with incorporated headlights, bonded windows, aircraft style flush mounted glass, limosine style doors, built-in painted bumpers, hidden body seams, cut of the hatch wrapping into the sides, exterior drip channels eliminated, most sharply raked winshield of any mass production vehicle at design time, aircraft style instrument cluster with adjustable pods, and digital instrumentation.
VW, redesigned the Scirocco in house, in 1982, three years after the Isuzu Piazza went into production.
The design for the Clubs car and the Isuzu Piazza and Impulse was never, at any time, submitted to VW, because it was commissioned by Isuzu. In addition, it was rear wheel drive and powered by an Isuzu engine, none of which would be of any benifit to VW. Automotive designers such as Giugiaro do not make submissions to automobile manufacturers that are not commissioned, and if that work is refused by the manufacturer, that work remains the property of that manufacturer, paid for by the commission. No rejected design is ever presented to another car manufacturer. Such an action would be considered theft and fraud and and the idea of Giugiaro or any other designer engaging in such unethical and illegal actions is totally absurd.
It is a documented fact that Ford, Chrysler, GM and other car manufacturers purchased first line production Isuzu Piazzas to reverse engineer (Car and Driver, March, 1982) and the information gained from this became a recipe book for the car design teams of each of these manufacturers. From the look of the VW's in house redesign of the Scirocco in 1982, it is undeniable that VW also purchased a Piazza and copied the design details in their own work.
Certainly, the original Scirocco and the Impulse are similarly designed cars, which would be expected as they were both designed by the same man. While it is true that they are related, comparison shows that this relationship is more that of comparing Neanderthal man to Modern Homo Sapien, the Scirocco being the Neanderthal.
VW Scirocco owners may feel better by spreading myths and claiming that the Impulse was the rejected Scirocco redesign, or that it was a copy of the Scirocco, but the facts as presented above prove these fabrications to be nothing more than what they are, false."

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