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, Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:45:38
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Your experience with them is very different than my experience. Running 225's, it takes about 4 hot laps to get the heat into them at the track on the Saab. The rears never got up to full heat. Then it was tough not to overheat the fronts and make them greasy. Fine for track days simply because they last a couple events, but not a good choice for competition. For autocross, you won't get the heat into them. You'd have a very hard time getting them heated up on the street.
I did make a few autocross runs in a rain storm once. I did 2 laps with the Pilot Sport Cups, and swapped out on my last run to my set of Pirelli PZero's thinking my times might improve. Even in the wet, the Sport Cups were much better than normal street tires at cornering. However, on the highway during rain, they hydroplane fairly easy as compared to a true street tire, but no worse than a tire running on it's tread wear markers.
They aren't ever hockey pucks. The inner compound is the same as the performance street tire formulas. The race formula is only on the outer edge. I never had a flat spot. My drive is gravel, they did not pick up those stones. But when heated, they picked up all sorts of street rubbish from the track (I carried a paint scraper and wire brush to clear them after events). You won't see that ever with normal driving.
I'd love to see you try and sue someone for running them on the street... frivolous countersuit would have you paying me and my lawyer fees. They aren't a hazard and completely legal, but like all tires have limitations. With these, the downsides are: cost, low wear, poor performance in inclimate weather, thin (more prone to punctures), and they aren't a good track tire or daily street tire. The Pro's are: heroic traction in good weather, very good balance and quality, and speed ratings and performance at speeds your Saab will never achieve. The target buyer is the person who wants track type performance on his street car and can live with the downsides; which is what I thought the OP wanted... Otherwise, just get $50 all-season 100k tires from Sears during a sale :P
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, Tue, 19 Feb 2008 01:45:38
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