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Re: 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow
Posted by chasman [Email] (more from chasman) on Mon, 12 Dec 2005 21:55:23
In Reply to: Re: 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow, dclee, Sat, 10 Dec 2005 22:12:02
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Hi Derek,
Thanks for the detailed reply! Below please find links for the most recent info I have found. My car search has not just been limited to the Internet. We have visited dealers and gone for test drives.
1. Side Curtains: Check the following IIHS links:
- http://www.iihs.org/ratings/default.aspx
(Note: the 9-3 with side curtains, not the 9-5, earns their highest rating
- http://www.iihs.org/ratings/ratingsbyseries.aspx?id=272
2. CR's road test: You're correct. CR tested an Arc.
3. For the "upscale sedan" class the highest rated car (solely based on performance, not reliability) was an Acura TL with a score of 90, and the lowest was a Volvo S60 with a score of 58. The 9-5 ranked second lowest with a score of 64.
“My 2005 CR Auto issue shows the 9-5 as above average reliability, the TL at only average. My annual Auto issues show this type of reliability going back to 2002. Sometimes they change the rankings over time slightly. My take: the 9-5 is better than most European sports sedans in this area. Only the BMW 3 Series equals or bests it.”
Per CR’s “New Car Preview 2006” pages: 64, 68, & 165(on newsstands now):
- Acura TL = much better than average reliability 98-2k, avg. 01- 02, & above avg. 03 - 05
- BMW 3-Series = average 98 - 03, worse than avg. 04, better than avg. 05
- Saab 9-5 = below average reliability 98 – 99, average 00 – 04, and insufficient data for 2005
4. CR latest subscriber survey: “What can I say? Are these the same consumers who voted it best for initial quality from J.D. Powers in 2002?”
For 2005, J.D. Powers rates the 9-5 as 2 out of 5 “Power Circles” for both overall appeal and performance. http://consumercenter.jdpower.com/cc/rd/cc/auto/compare.asp?activeList=JDPlistSub
5. Repair costs: “Not than any other premium vehicle …”
I’ve never owned a premium vehicle. How much more per year would you estimate compared Toyota & Honda?
6. GM's financial health: “I don't think you need to worry about GM.”
See Today’s Headlines:
Reuters: http://biz.yahoo.com/rb/051212/autos_gm_sandp.html?.v=4
New York Times: http://www.nytimes.com/2005/12/13/business/13auto.html?adxnnl=1&adxnnlx=1134451605-bORWi4f6mwMxCQ/zVNaIwQ
BusinessWeek: http://www.businessweek.com/investor/content/dec2005/pi20051212_5913_pi036.htm
Thanks again,
Chasman
(forgot address info.)
posted by 141.157.150...
Posts in this Thread:
- 9-5 Aero wgn vs 9-2x Aero wgn?, chasman, Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:41:33
- Yes, you can, JT, Thu, 8 Dec 2005 09:17:23
- They don't compare at all..., Brian, Wed, 7 Dec 2005 19:55:31
- It's true - we've got two 9-5 Wagons and an Aero, Scott Paterson
, Thu, 8 Dec 2005 12:13:55- Re: It's true - we've got two 9-5 Wagons and an Aero, chasman, Fri, 9 Dec 2005 04:15:15
- Re: It's true - we've got two 9-5 Wagons and an Aero, Scott Paterson
, Wed, 14 Dec 2005 00:57:00 - 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow, John T, Fri, 9 Dec 2005 16:18:44
- Re: 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow, 8AA2YM, Sat, 10 Dec 2005 13:30:09
- This is the best advice - test drive, but remember, Scott Paterson
, Wed, 14 Dec 2005 01:00:55 - Re: 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow, dclee, Sat, 10 Dec 2005 21:27:13
- Re: 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow, chasman, Sat, 10 Dec 2005 14:56:25
- Re: 2004 Aero Wagon in First Denver Snow, chasman, Sat, 10 Dec 2005 10:26:21
- Re: It's true - we've got two 9-5 Wagons and an Aero, PSB, Fri, 9 Dec 2005 07:18:47
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