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Re: what a fantastic debate
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Posted by vvack0matic [Email] (#1443) [Profile/Gallery] (more from vvack0matic) on Wed, 25 Mar 2009 17:25:58 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Re: what a fantastic debate, Tom G [Profile/Gallery] , Tue, 24 Mar 2009 18:16:05
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i have not had the opportunity to look inside the mann filter but as for the fram no harm will come from the filter being changed with the oil. (every 3000 miles or less) but personally, to see how the fram is made, the filter would never find its way on my car as for pennzoil, being fram bought the company and still uses the name, id expect the business had took a turn toward fram policy.
just to note. last i heard fram coats the filtrating cardboard inserts of their filters with slick 50 to make the car seem to run smother after a new change.
and i suppose one might ask next what is slick 50, thats a hole different post.

even though the mann filters inside design eludes me what i do know is it is equipped with four ports for oil flow, these ports will allow sufficient flow of the oil, but there is something that can happen, and did to me (with a mann equipped) which was the primary reason i looked into filters, if say by some extreme event one of these for holes gets plugged by a foreign debree, or a defected built filter the 3 remaining holes might be able to keep up with the demand of oil flow with out restricting it that would cause potential harm. using regular motor oil in this defected filter the chances are greatly increased that the flow of oil will be restricted so much it would burn out vital parts.
synthetic oil has a thinner viscosity than regular motor oil which makes the oil move better through 95%microscopic filtrating mesh filters. but the side effect of synthetic oil is being its viscosity is thinner it will find a weak gasket, if the motor has one, and will leak to no end where regular motor oil wouldn't. this oil would have no problem moving through 3 filter ports.


the mobil one and purolator pure one both carry 8 or 10 holes for oil flow.
there are probably more filters that carry this may hole but off the top of my head i know these do.
the mann filter is the filter that is used by many saab indys, i should take a closer look at it but time eludes me and being it was the mann filter that had a port hole blocked from foreign debree many years ago. this filter; being it has 4 ports wouldn't find its way back on my motor.

(being you used fram filters for sometime, im sure you remember the fram commercial that said 'before you slam it fram it' this is just another way to get there product sold with out saying anything about it.
and im sure after seeing that commercial it made fram consumers fell good they had a fram equipped on there car. but to sit back and just look at what they did, i have to give them credit, they know how to push junk.)

ok enough fram bashing
but to look at filters in general, they are meant to filter oil in a running car, the filter is never meant to be equipped on a car for a year. let alone 6 to 8 months. every saab indy you go to will recommend changing the oil 3000 miles or 3 months what ever comes first.
of course it is up to the owner of the car to take these kind of actions and every body is different, i suppose thats why there are so many different filters out there thats stuck in many different colored boxes.

i just wish i was more into gene splicing and cloning our food than oil filters.




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