Re: Adrian: A little more help! - Saab 9000 Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 7/1: Members: Log In to See Fewer Ads! | 5/28: SAAB Evolutions/TSN T-Shirts $14

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

9000 Bulletin Board
1985-1998 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main 9000 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Re: Adrian: A little more help!
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Adrian (more from Adrian) on Tue, 25 May 2004 11:12:39 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Adrian: A little more help!, Courtney H. Caillouet, Tue, 25 May 2004 09:44:20
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

Sorry about the ACC thing. I was thinking of the newer one. Maybe someone with experience on the older system can advise you.

As for the cooling fan...

Do you have one or two fuses? If two, which one is blowing? (Sorry, but I don't have access to a diagram right now, and I don't trust my memory.)

I would do this. Take the three wires off the thermoswitch. Find a convenient ground point and ground each one. One won't do anything (black). One should be low speed, one should be high speed.

Did both speeds work? Did you blow the fuse? If that much is ok, leave the car idling and watch to see whether the fan goes to low speed and then to high. If it's not hot out it might never need high speed, though. If you know that the low speed works, but it jumps right to high, then you need a new fan switch.

Ok, so what if one of the speeds didn't work when you grounded the wire? Find the relays. There are a lot of ways you could test them depending what you have around. If they are identical, you could just switch them around and see if anything changes. (I don't think they are identical.) If you can pop the covers off the relays you can actually see them work. That's best. Ground the wires at the fan switch and see if the relays snap shut.

If they don't, you could hook up the coil terminals on the relay to the battery and see if the relay closes. There's usually a little diagram on the relay so you can identify the coil wires. You should be able to hear it snap. If you have a meter, check the continuity across the other terminals when the relay is closed. You should have continuity when the relay is energized (closed). If the relay seems to be ok but the fan doesn't come on when you ground the wires at the thermoswitch, you may have a break in the wire between the relay and the fan switch. If the relay seems ok and the wire to the fan switch seems ok, see if there is power feeding the coil of the relay. There should be 12v there whenever the ignition is on.

If all that checks out ok but you are still blowing fuses, then you have some work ahead. If the fan runs for more than few seconds, then it is likely that there is a problem with the fan itself drawing too much current. If the fuse blows very quickly, there's probably a short somewhere. Look for a wire that has lost its insulation and is touching ground or another bare wire.

Finally, if you want to eliminate the fan switch and relays from the equation entirely, you can bypass the relays. Get some short, heavy wire and put suitable terminals on it. You want the terminals to fit the female terminals for the relays. The low speed isn't anything special, but you want some really fat wire for the high speed, and I believe it also has extra wide terminals. Identify which two terminals on each relay is for the fan (not for the relay's coil). Put the wire between those two terminals for the low speed. Everything good? Now add the wire for the high speed. If this runs the fan ok, go back to looking at the control side of things. If this blows the fuse, look at the fan itself and the wires that feed it. If either speed does not work when you do this, check to see there is power coming to the relay socket. With the ignition on, each realy socket should have two wires with 12v. If so, then look at the fan and the wires that go to it.

I hope this makes sense. I really need to look at a diagram to say anything more helpful and less general. Just follow good troubleshooting practice: eliminate one thing at a time, don't assume anything works even if it's brand new, work your way along the chain in order, and, most importantly, don't blow anything up that isn't blown up already. Including yourself.

posted by 130.91.5...


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!