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I too used to laugh at the Jap super cars. Why I used to think...you think you have a real muscle car? Why not a mustang/z-28/T-A??? I have friends that are in to muscle cars and big blocks....hell I have a tow truck, a 1986 ford 4 door dually with a 460 putting out 500 ft-lbs at the rear wheels and I am building a 514 for it to get more power so I LIKE big v-8's....however, I am begining to feel that these REAL riceburners (the cars with go not show) are pretty impressive. The entire m uscle car movment started buy guys taking passenger cars in the 50's and 60's and turning them into fast cars..when mustangs came out they were fastish, sporty family cars. People did a lot of work making them go fast. Now a mustang is a fast car from the factory...hell a 01 z-28 or SS is a DAMN fast car. But these rice burners are taking 100 hp economy cars like Civics and turning them into 12, 11, 10 or even 9 second cars.....THAT IS DAMN IMPRESSIVE. I have glanced at some of the magazines and some of these cars are naturally aspirated without NOS....THAT IS VERY VERY IMPRESSIVE. I might not like the culture but I respect there knowledge and dedication to making something origional, personal, and something that performs. I also think it is a good expenditure of money and time for a kid....UNLESS THEY GET INTO STREET RACING....THAT BELONGS ON THE TRACK NOT THE STREET..but if my kid wants to work and spend all his money and time fixing up a car I would love it. It is much better than some of the other alternatives kids have today.

Scott Kephart Ph.D.
Gilson, inc.

• Fast and Furious movie. 10 second car. Is that true?, k from Seattle, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:07:31
  • Modern muscle cars, Scott K., Thu, 28 Jun 2001 22:30:59 <-- Viewing This Message
  • Isn't there, ..., GM, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 19:37:16
  • 8.49 sec at 171 mph., pmr, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 08:54:27
  • Extreme Motorsports has a sub 10sec Talon, Ckpaden, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:59:03
  • Ten sec. ¼'s aren't uncommon..., brian@saabcenter.com, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:52:36
    • Don't you have a supercharged miata?, Rookie, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:34:38
      • It's turbo-charged. Great easy to do (or have done) set-up., brian@saabcenter.com, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:49:31
    • They snap their axles all the time with all of the torque, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:00:26
    • Isn't kinda fun seeing the FWD Hondas Take in Big Blocks n/m, Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:55:26
  • I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Rookie, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:35:33
    • Why would you spend $10,000 to upgrade a Civic?, Schu, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:44:27
      • Why would you spend money to upgrade a Saab?, Mike 87 900s, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 14:44:38
    • Wow...but he's still driving a Honda. n/m, Richard P., Tue, 26 Jun 2001 11:02:52
    • Rice isn't about real performance, its about looks, Mike, Tue, 26 Jun 2001 10:06:28
    • Jackson Racing SC is not that good, nickR, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 22:36:25
      • How much HP does a turboed-Civic usually push? n/m, Ryan , Tue, 26 Jun 2001 04:10:01
        • All depends, nickR, Wed, 27 Jun 2001 08:38:56
    • uhh....but it is still a civic...which is NOT an automobile...., chrisx, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 20:16:02
    • Let's see - heavily modified vs. stock..., saabaru, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:15:30
    • Slow down Rook, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:54:57
      • You are SO totally right!, bazil burns, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 17:15:36
      • Hey..., Jay S, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:03:07
        • rear spoiler (wing) and it was in a junkyard for $50!!!, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:28:16
    • We're on the same page., Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:48:39
    • Re: I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:44:41
      • Re: I have a contreversial rant pleas read and respond!, Jay S., Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:58:53
        • I hear ya.., Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:42:06
        • The heart of the problem is..., Chad, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 16:05:02
    • Slight correction...., Jeff Newton, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:42:33
      • Re: Slight correction...., Ryan , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:45:51
    • You have described about .01% of the riceboy population!, Jeff Cunningham, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:40:02
      • Exactly...., AdamB , Mon, 25 Jun 2001 19:26:11
  • Yup its true., Mike 87 900s, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:20:38
    • Correct, never on the street, WASSAAB, Mon, 25 Jun 2001 15:30:27

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