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Yep, I'veen busy with all the boring stuff, such as my work, lately. And on the other hand I guess my car repair inspiration is lost somewhere in the back yard, under that 2-feet deep snow... :I
About the IC pipes: its stupid but true that I didnt take any pics of my pipes before I installed them. Don't think I'm completely crazy and yes, I still like women and so on, but the pipes were... almost sexy :) There's a very respected guy here in Finland who does custom aluminium welding jobs: he's a very popular IC maker and makes the finest IC piping i have ever seen. I first made up my pipes using 90 and 45 degree bends of 60mm sewage pipe. Used 60mm rubber cooler hose as the straight runs. That looked very bad and I can only imagine how much the long hose runs flexed under heavy boost. But anyway, that ugly prototype gave me a good idea of the pipes I would need to get. I ordered them from this one guy with my custom measurements marked on the drawings I made. He bent the lower angle pipes and the 180-degree turns I got were soldered together from sheet aluminum. The quality of work was really awesome and I can't really understand how the guy could do the pipes like that and charge only about 120 dollars (well, euros over here) for the whole job!
I needed:
2 very sharp 180-degree turns for the ic outlets - 90 degree turns really aren't enough here if you don't use the original IC rubber outlets
3 45-degree turns: two to complement the 180 deg turns near ic (to angle the pipes to the back of the car), one to match the angle between the pipe coming out the ic and the tb pipe
1 90-deg turn with a longer radius
about 2 feet of straight pipe
Ans as you figured, I used the two factory aluminum pipes, one for the turbo outlet (turned 180 degs) and the one for the throttle body (turned down 90 degs). I also bought 3 feet of 60mm silicone hose plus about two dozen cable ties made of stainless steel. My piping is now completely of aluminium, the silicone hoses are used only in joints. This is probably a good think as having very long runs of flexible hose can cause trouble - if nothing else then burst one fine day.
Be careful when taking the measurements as personally I would have been very disappointed after spending quite some time planning the installation, paying for the custom piping and then having those beautiful pipes in hand only to see that they'll never fit there. Luckily mine fit very nicely.
I DID have to visit the AC shop: the lower hi-pressure aluminum pipe that goes into the condenser was on the IC pipe's way. The shop replaced the pipe with rubber hose which gives room for the ic pipe. Easy job, took them only an hour, but the complete evacuation and refill of the AC is needed. I dont know what you pay for it in the US but these folks here in europe tend to charge at least 120 dollars for the job - including the full charge of R134a. A bit cheaper if you've got your "own gas" left in the system.
As I have the Mitsu turbo the compressor outlet is difficult - if not impossible - to turn down. No problem here: the turbo outlet pipe goes pretty nicely from between the distributor and the radiator hose. I have a new hose for the radiator waiting for installation which will increase the clearance to the IC pipes avoiding all the rub.
Hope this helps, sorry I dont have any really useful pics handy.
Jouko
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