Re: 90 Seat heaters no workey; but voltage & heating grid OK? - Saab 900 Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News -

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

C900 Bulletin Board
1979-1993 & 94 Conv [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main C900 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Re: 90 Seat heaters no workey; but voltage & heating grid OK?
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Ari [Email] (#2847) [Profile/Gallery] (more from Ari) on Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:59:06 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: 90 Seat heaters no workey; but voltage & heating grid OK?, DET, Wed, 20 Dec 2000 15:08:07
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

I think I know the answer to your problem - go to the bottom of the post. But to answer your questions-

To remove the heater controller from the dash-
It just pops in, so you should be able to pop it out - with some effort. Get a thin screwdriver or knife blade, and slip it in between the bottom of the switch and the square hole it sits in. You want to lever the bottom of the switch towards you *just a little*. Then do the same at the top. You want to 'walk' the switch out. It will eventually pop out. The controller is quite long. I always tie a string to the cable harness before I remove the controller, as the cable wants to dive back into the dash and disappear otherwise.

The controller is NOT a rheostat. It measures the temperature of the seat with a sensor. If the seat is colder than the temperature, a relay in the controller closes and applies 12 volts to the heater element. Once the seat heats up to the temperature setting (1 being colder, 3 hotter) the relay opens and NO volts go to the heating element. When the seat cools a little, the relay closes again.

The answer:
You are getting 12 volts to the heating element in positions 1,2, and 3. This tells me the controller is *probably* OK. Do this test:
Measure the resistance of the BLACK wire to ground. 12 volts to the heater do no good if the current has no ground return. My guess is that the ground is bad. If the resistance is more than a couple of ohms, clean up the ground connection and enjoy the heat.

OK, what if the ground connection appears good? You probably did the voltage measurements with the seat unplugged - namely, no load on the system. If you have a bad connection, you'll see 12 volts, but it may go away under load. This is a bit tricky, but try it. Measure the voltage to chassis on the supply to the seat heater under the seat with the Seat Plugged IN. You can usually stick the meter probe into the back of the connector. If you get less than 12+ volts, there is a problem in the power. It may be that the relay in the seat heater controller has dirty contacts. If so, remove the controller, open it up, and clean the relay contacts with some fine sandpaper.

If you see a good 12+ volts on the high side of the grid, measure the voltage on the black wire to ground. It may measure 0 or so ohms with no load, but under load a bad connection will show up. If you see more than about 200 millivolts (0.2V) between the heater side of the connector and chassis, clean the ground point AND the connector contacts.

I hope this helps.


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!