description, and yet another Haynes rant! - Saab NG900 & OG9-3 Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 4/9 Saab Owners' Convention Day Pass Raffle | 3/26 M Car Covers (by State of Nine)

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

NG900 & OG93 Bulletin Board
1994-2002 [Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main NG900 & OG93 Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
description, and yet another Haynes rant!
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Dean (more from Dean) on Fri, 1 Dec 2000 09:26:28 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: Dean, how much was the work for rear seals?, Talladega900, Thu, 30 Nov 2000 18:41:02
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

After the vehicle has been sitting for a while, perhaps an hour, look under the front of the car. Look for a drop of oil at the drain dimple on the bottom of the bell housing. If there is a drop there, now you need to know if it is the engine seal or trany seal. Reach and get that oil onto your finger tip. Engine oil should appear amber, and smell line engine oil. It also should smell like gasoline from components in the blow-by gases. Gear oil smells different, and is often dyed red.

The Haynes manual is totally bogus. The engine does not need to be lowered, and the O2 sensor does not need to be removed, and the downpipe does not need to be removed. The down pipe is disconnected at the turbo, 3 nuts and studs. The cable clamp for the O2 sensor is removed to get some slack, and the exhaust is lowered slightly. The LH suspension needs to be dismantled to allow the LH drive shaft to be removed from the trany, drain trany first. Then the starter motor and bel housing bolts are removed. I suspect that the trany is rotated somewhat then pulled. The LH fender lining and some other stuff needs to be pulled. Haynes also stated that the turbo hoses needed to be pulled, and the engine oil drained. If someone followed Haynes instructions for this work, it would be horror show. Hanyes wanted the complete sub frame removed!

After the trany is out, the clutch and fly wheel are unbolted. The engine seal is punched or drilled, and sheet metal screws are put into the holes, and those are used to pull the old seal. The new seal probably cannot be easily fitted without a purpose built tool. The seal costs $16. So far you are in for some major labor expense.

So those are the major points as far as I know. I did not do this work myself, so you can count on some serious omissions in my description.

When the trany is pulled, one end of the clutch cable is free. The other end is tricky, as about 10 fasteners need to be removed to get at it under the dash. The cable cost $45.

The old clutch throw out bearing is in great shape. It turns freely and does not appear to be dry or stiff. The bearing to finger spring contact points while appearing burnished, did not indicate any wear. Folks who rest their foot on the clutch or holt it down at stop lights might not be so fortunate.

I was told that the new oil seal has new materials in it, and that hardening and stiffening of the seal is a known problem. The replacement seal has a new partnumber to avoid using new-old stock with the old material spec. That is great news.

My labor was not itemized, and included drain/fill and resealing the trany as well. So I cannot quote that for you. So with the real seal, reseal trany, Saab synthetic gear oil, clutch kit, clutch cable, remove the four suspension arms, press out the old, press in the new, fit the lower frame brace, everything came to $1320 plus sales tax. Take off about $240 for the Abbott intall labor and the job would have cost less. The Abbott parts costs are not part of that total.


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!