Audi and VW are switching to a new generation
of Direct Fuel Injection engines, as it looks
now there seems to be a technical problem
which would be rather expensive to overcome
with their new FSI technology for use on turbo
engines. VW is already phasing out the 1.8L turbo
in many markets, replacing it with a 150-170Hp V5 engine.

Audi has already a new 2.0L 150 engine will replace
the 150Hp 1.8L Turbo. The new RS6 will no longer use
a turbo engine... the 2.7L V6 twin turbo will be replaced
by a V8 engine. Only the diesel engines will keep the
turbo for obvious reasons. Warranty problems for VW/Audi
for turbo engines also seem to be an issue, but marketing
is of course not very happy about people buying a 150Hp
turbo Golf to tune it to 225Hp for a fraction of the cost
of a faster Golf.

BMW, not a big fan anyways of Turbo/Supercharging will only
use a supercharger on its NG Mini. All the other engines
will remain non Turbo.

Mercedes is also switching to Direct Fuel Injection on its
engines, thus the Supercharged AMG engines will all be replaced
with Atmo. versions.

But there is one more reason for this... the E.U. has banned
91 octane (US +/- 87) and is also considering a ban on 98 octane
(US +/- 92) fuel. This would reduce the choice to 95 octane (US +/- 89)
gas. There seems to be some pressures from gas importing countries
in Europe to ban this more expensive gas.

Considering that Turbo engines are more efficient, there is only
one logical explanation why some manufacturers don't like them...
a) too easy to CHIP b) harder to get right

Looks like some interesting times ahead!...
Looks like SAAB and a few others will soon be the only
companies selling turbo cars.

Regards,
Coolknight

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• Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, Coolknight, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 09:06:44 <-- Viewing This Message
  • saab variable compression will take the cake, sully, Sun, 12 Aug 2001 23:09:36
  • what a bunch of wusses. hehheh...heh. n/m, beevis, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 15:48:58
  • Re: Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, david hanley, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 12:41:22
    • Re: Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, Dan Wyman, Sun, 12 Aug 2001 11:27:19
      • Re: Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, David Hanley, Sun, 12 Aug 2001 20:16:06
        • Re: Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, Dan Wyman, Mon, 13 Aug 2001 01:22:57
          • Re: Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, David Hanley, Mon, 13 Aug 2001 14:26:34
            • Re: Audi, VW, BMW, Mercedes pulling out of Turbo/Supercharging!, Dan Wyman, Tue, 14 Aug 2001 13:43:37
    • Turbo engines are more efficient!, Coolknight, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:32:59
      • Re: Turbo engines are more efficient!, David Hanley, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 17:07:16
      • Re: Turbo engines are more efficient! BUT, Bill D, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 16:40:58
        • The old F1 1.5L Turbo engines didn't rev that high, Coolknight, Sat, 11 Aug 2001 05:16:02
          • Re: The old F1 1.5L Turbo engines didn't rev that high, Bill D, Sat, 11 Aug 2001 09:20:15
  • One more reason to own a Saab. (n/m), Adam M., Fri, 10 Aug 2001 11:29:08
  • Coolknight - gasoline ban intrigues me, Bill D, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:21:06
    • No idea why they would ban low octane unleaded..., Coolknight, Fri, 10 Aug 2001 10:49:21
      • There's been some concern for the MTBE content, AdamB , Sun, 12 Aug 2001 09:35:21

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