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More Review Of Saab Oil TSB Posted by Greg Netzner (more from Greg Netzner) on Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:20:52

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My take on these areas of the TSB:

Engine Performance & Fuel Economy: Both address the benefits of lo-vis oils during startup while emphasizing the importance of hi-vis oils during operation. This favors full-syn of either 0W-30 or 0W-40 range.

Longevity: Addresses additives & breakdown. This favors a non-ILSAC GF-3 oil, as GF-3 specs require reduced anti-wear additives to preserve the operation of the catalyst in the catalytic converter. I do know that several car manufacturers (GM & Chrysler primarily, maybe others?) are concerned about this, but I haven’t found any tests on it. I’ve also heard that the nearly-here GF-4 specs lower the AW pkg even further. This also favors an ACEA A3 oil, as ACEA A1 specs do not cover extended drain intervals.

Service And Oil Changes & the Oil Table: Combined, these 2 areas say that Saab considers their turbo-equipped engines to qualify as an extreme environment (Jason!) requiring full-syn oil.

Recommended Oils sentence: ACEA A1/B1 & ILSAC GF-3 are both conspicuously absent.

The Last Sentence (TG!): is for “further information," meaning “additional to” not “in place of.”

Unmentionables: Do we get into a discussion of Diesel-specific oils (& their greater amount of AW additives) here?

Your comments are desired; keep in mind that my bias is towards full-syn, 0W-40, ACEA A3 oil, & while you probably won’t change my opinion, you may affect someone elses.

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More Review Of Saab Oil TSB, Greg Netzner, Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:20:52 <-- Viewing This Message
- Oil Test information, Stephen Goldberger, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:47:13
- In defense of Mobil 1 5W-30/10W-30........, REM in Seattle, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:49:11
  - Re: In defense of Mobil 1 5W-30/10W-30........, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:57:56
- Another NINES story in the works, Stephen Goldberger, Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:56:25
  - That's exatly right (+), Vlad, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 10:38:34
- Re: More Review Of Saab Oil TSB, TG, Wed, 30 Oct 2002 20:09:57
  - TSB Context, Greg Netzner, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 18:29:06
- So the brand of that kind of oil would be ...., phred, Wed, 30 Oct 2002 19:53:26
  - Mobil one 5W-30 / 0W-30, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 06:24:39
    - not equal, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:30:23
      - And More !!, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:55:35
        Reading Between The Lines?, Greg Netzner, Fri, 1 Nov 2002 01:59:57
        I called Mobil, 0W-40 IS GF-3 rated n/m, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:25:41
        >>>>> Fantastic! (+), Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 21:07:57
      - strange characters, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:32:55
        Re: strange characters, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 16:30:34
        ACEA, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 20:49:28
    - Re: Mobil one 5W-30 / 0W-30, pogeybait, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 09:31:45
      - Re: Mobil one 5W-30 / 0W-30, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:22:44
        Spoilsport, phred, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 12:53:50
        See ... we love you phred ..., J, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:51:43
        Cold weather tips, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:26:48
        Yup ... "Lorenzo's Oil" :-) n/m, J, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:38:10
  - Mobil 1 0W-40... (+), Jason, Wed, 30 Oct 2002 21:50:41
    - Wrong, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 11:25:30
      - Typo on that page, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:12:49
        link to correct specs, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:17:49
    - I'm convinced, Bill S , Thu, 31 Oct 2002 02:51:57
    - Hey ... you forgot Mobile 2 Delvac 13wd40! ..., J, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 00:45:30
      - Delvac 1 is some crazy stuff!, Jason, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 14:47:10
        Re: Delvac 1 is some crazy stuff!, TG, Thu, 31 Oct 2002 17:08:09

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