So I don't think it's either of those. It came on instantly. I actually know the fuel pump pumps fuel, I disconnected banjo at fuel rail, pulled line back out from below, fed it forward into a 5 gal jug parked where air filter and AMM sat, and triggered pump to drain gas out of tank, removing about 7 gallons, looked clean and good. I didn't drain ALL old gas out tho, just down to near empty. Then I put in a couple gallons of fresh gas and ran a little of that out too.

Finally got car to start, after cranking lots of times and spraying starting fluid, flooring it after starting fluid kicked in. Then raced it till it warmed up, when it ran well enough to stay going at idle tho with still a miss to it sort of.

Drove it up the street to the gas station to get a full tank of fresh fuel, and it died as I got to the pumps - - in neutral with pedal floored, but engine just faded away and died. Bought the gas but couldn't restart it there and had it towed back to my business.

I realize I need to do more before deciding it's not getting fuel - - see if plugs are wet with fuel after a spell of cranking; listen for or test for signal to injector solenoids; etc.

I have a spare ECU from a 1990, think I'll try it with that just for kicks, who knows, maybe that's my trouble, tho I usually don't doubt such major components.

Plugs are ACs and pretty old, gap WAS at .050 or so I discovered. But car had been running great, starting always all winter, never a hint of a miss. The plug wires are Bougicord, look fairly new.
Hall sensor is at crank pulley, all wires undisturbed and no reason to expect a failure there. And I have put a timing light on and it showed regular spark, at times when engine totally failed to fire.

I guess I also should check whether there's a strong spark that will jump a big gap; make note to self.

posted by 70.105.24...

• Help, pals. Car wants to die. Fuel pump?, RayF, Sun, 4 May 2008 19:17:03
  • Check Hall Sensor and connector at Distributor, Whirligigmike, Mon, 5 May 2008 07:20:17
    • My Hall Sensor is crank-mounted. Do these fail?, RayF, Mon, 5 May 2008 08:06:11
      • Not ECU. Confession: I put old gas into it., RayF, Mon, 5 May 2008 12:04:23
        • Plainly, water in the gas, droplets of it., RayF, Mon, 5 May 2008 13:25:34
          • russian hint (+), Siegfried, Mon, 5 May 2008 15:02:20
            • Gee. Can't I use this vodka I bought?, RayF, Tue, 6 May 2008 16:36:01
              • Finale to Water-In-Gas story: Fuel filter., RayF, Wed, 21 May 2008 11:20:08
  • Get it reborn, Siegfried, Sun, 4 May 2008 20:08:17
  • Re: Help, pals. Car wants to die. Fuel pump?, mac, Sun, 4 May 2008 20:06:47
    • Gapped plugs. Fuel filter almost new., RayF, Mon, 5 May 2008 07:41:44 <-- Viewing This Message

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