Whoa... :) - Saab Performance Bulletin Board - Saabnet.com
The banner above is an advertisment - if it asks you to download software, please ignore.
Site News - 7/1: Members: Log In to See Fewer Ads! | 5/28: SAAB Evolutions/TSN T-Shirts $14

[General | Members | C900 | 9000 | NG900 & OG93 | 93 | 95 | NG95 | 99 | Sonett | Vintage Models | Clubs | Other Cars | FAQs | Gifts | Member Photo Galleries | Member Directory | Classifieds | Manuals | *Buddy Registry | *Mileage Registry | Polls | What's New | Raffle | Photo of the Month | Sponsors]

Performance Bulletin Board
[Subscribe to Daily Digest]
(Search Author's Posts: e.g. Keyword:username)*Members Only


[Main Performance Bulletin Board | BBFAQ | Prev by Date | Next by Date | Post Followup ] Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
Whoa... :)
Like This Post: - Subscribe to Daily Digest for this Bulletin Board
Posted by Drew in Houston [Email] (more from Drew in Houston) on Sat, 29 Jan 2005 17:16:46 Share Post by Email
In Reply to: people write software for what they have around them, jak [Profile/Gallery] , Sat, 29 Jan 2005 13:52:15
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup

No really Jak don't hold-back, tell me what you really think generally about "someone like me". Cool down buddy.

The question is why can other low-volume, fringe type vehicle tuners turn a profit selling their wares for half the price? Especially considering there are so very many companies competing, creating similar possible market shares?

And why is the pricing so similar between all sellers? How has that pricing been set and agreed-to? Is it based-upon what the market will absolutely bare at a maximum? Or is it based-upon something else? That's all I'm asking.

If I'm not supposed to ask a question, I wonder why not?

Please don't attack me personally or my choice to drive a fantastic Saab car because I've asked some questions that might go against the grain a little bit. I've met you, and honestly think you're a good guy and respect your amazing accomplishments, that's why I bought you lunch---but I'm not so sure that it's your place or responsibility to monitor my "attitude".

Is this issue not worthy of discussion? Isn't performance price/$ a valid subject to be considered and held to a standard? One similar to every other make and model vehicle and not a Saab-only artificail standard? If not, why not? With the exception of the ion analysis functions (left alone when tuned) the technology isn't drastically different, so what is different exactly?

I'm not concerned with how much I personally have to pay, and from discussions and emails we've had, you KNOW that with certainity. I can send you copies of our discussion if you've forgotten.

I'm not complaining at all, everything is a choice. If I chose to modify a Saab or not. Whether I choose to buy pieces from vendor X Y or Z. Whether I choose not to. Whether I choose to cut-out and do a partial stand-alone. I do not feel that I'm inherantly entitled to anything other than a choice. If a company is selling something and they choose to price it a certain way, it is my choice and decision to buy it or not. Freewill is great! But if gas prices in Houston were at $10/gallon for no apparent reason and in Greenville it was $2/gallon, wouldn't it be a valid question to ask why?

But please explain to me, out of an entire world full of injector possibilities, why universally choose a standard injector that is too small to start with, which causes a need to increase fuel pressure to 3.8 bar? There are many other possibilities. If a company wants to sell product in a market, wouldn't it make most sense and be more responsible to choose something for a standard that is sized correctly to start, and is available in that market--the main market--for less $? What could possibly be the motivation behind doing otherwise?

I do not lack the ability to empathize at all. I do however lack the abilty to not ask questions when something dosen't seem quite right to me. All may be well, I don't know, that's why I've asked. And that's all I'm doing, asking questions. If there are answers, fine. If there are not, that's fine too. Either way, what is the harm with asking? If an action is justifiable without discssion it should also be justifiable with discussion. Either something is justifiable or it isn't. Surely an open-minded person can see the truth in that.

Putting myself in your shoes, as a direct re-seller I know that you have somthing personal to protect here, specifically your suppliers best interests. But since you responded, in your opinion, how exactly can other fringe market tuners stay in business, selling a similar product in similar numbers at around half the price? They must be making money somehow...

Besides, if I do choose to shareware it, wouldn't that be ME who has absorbed all the losses? I guess I don't understand your comment about how I "seem only concerned about what you personaly have to pay for your car to get tuned".

posted by 67.10.24...


Posts in this Thread:
Alert me when someone posts in this thread:
Members do not see ads below this line. - Help Keep This Site Online - Signup
Post a Followup

No Site Registration is Required to Post - Site Membership is optional (Member Features List), but helps to keep the site online
for all Saabers. If the site helps you, please consider helping the site by becoming a member.

Name: Member Login / Signup - Members see fewer ads. - Latest Member Gallery Photos
E-Mail: (Optional)
Re-Enter E-Mail: (Confidential & Secure - Not revealed to other users!)
Note: Please check your spam folder for BB responses.

Subject:

Posting rules are simple - No for sale/wanted ads may be posted here - use the site classifieds.
You may not cross-post your message to multiple BBs.
Not permitted: political/religious topics and being disrespectful (personal attacks, insults, etc...).
Site Members do not see any red text, inline ad links, bottom of page anchor ads, box ads, or anti-spam check.

Message: (please no for sale/wanted classifieds - post those in the Saabnet.com Classifieds)
Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).


Links are now automatically made active, no need for any special code (or use the Option Link field below) - don't put links in () or end with a '.'
To add inline images to your post above, use [img]http://www.domain.com/img.jpg[endimg] (or use the Optional Image Link field below).

Optional Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/)
Link Title: (Optional)
Optional Photo/Image Link: (e.g. http://www.saabnet.com/img.jpg)
Photo/Image to Upload: (Please be patient while file uploads)





StateOfNine.com
SaabClub.com
Jak Stoll Performance
M Car Covers
Ad Available

The content on this site may not be republished without permission. Copyright © 1988-2024 - The Saab Network - saabnet.com.
For usage guidelines, see the Mission & Privacy Notice.
[Contact | Site Map | Saabnet.com on Facebook | Saabnet.com on Twitter | Shop Amazon via TSN | Site Donations]

Random Saabnet.com Member Gallery Photos (Click Image)

This is a moderated bulletin board - Posting is a privilege, not a right. Unsolicited commercial postings are not allowed (no spam). Please, no For Sale or Wanted postings, SERIOUSLY. Classifieds are to be listed in The Saab Network Classifieds pages. This is a problem solving forum for over 250,000 Saab owners, so expect to see problems discussed here even though our cars are generally very reliable. This is not an anything goes type of forum. Saabnet.com has been a moderated forum since 1988. For usage guidelines, see the Saabnet.com Mission and Purpose Page. Please remember that you are not anonymous. Site Contact | Site Donations | Other Sites by SP - Poverty2Prosperity.org | Run Club Menlo Park | ScreenBot



Site Members do not see red text instructions, bottom of the page anchor ads, or box ads.
Click here to see all the Site Membership Benefits!