is a 1 metre rule regarding pedestrians and bicyclists. If a motor vehicle hits a pedestrian or bicyclist (even if the pedestrian is jay-walking or the bicyclist is riding the wrong way on a one way street) there is hell to pay for the driver. My wife and I have logged many kilometers on our bikes in Germany, France, Italy and Spain - we have never been given the finger, honked at only when there was bicycle path close by (not seen by us but we figured there must be something when a transport truck tooted and put his indicator on then turned it off on a straight road (how is that for attention while you are driving). I do agree that in the urban areas things can get a bit rougher as cars get parked on the wrong side of the street - any place the driver can fit it in (seen a "Smart" car nose ito the curb lately??). Point taken about our NA pastime of NASCAR, dirt racing and drags. But we are talking about the general capability of a driver on a major highway - NA lags behind (actually stuck behind the elderly gent in the left lane doing 40!) Once again only my 2 cents worth

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• What makes the cupholder so important?, Hank, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 08:55:46
  • door mounted cup holder (only available) in Europe???, Paul , Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:47:26
  • Re: What makes the cupholder so important?, Paul , Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:37:22
  • all interesting points, but..., jpr, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:53:00
    • Re: all interesting points, but..., CFishgo, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:54:46
  • Cupholders bad? On I-285 in Atlanta . . ., jc, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:40:58
  • Gravity. n/m, Saabstance, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 14:12:43
  • It's a difference in culture., Dave in Houston, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:17:22
  • Re: What makes the cupholder so important?, David Farley, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:45:18
  • Because we work harder and longer hours, have, Terraplanem, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 12:12:25
  • Hank, StevenQ, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:02:53
    • Re: Hank, Paul , Fri, 31 Jan 2003 17:27:20
  • not coincedentally, 80% of all Americans, Ed G, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:17:22
    • Europeans are DRIVERS, North Americans are to>>>, Dennis in Brockville, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 09:41:01
      • Driving Habits, Steve, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 11:39:13
      • Hey now!, CFishgo, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:20:45
        • In many if not most European countries there >>>, Dennis in Brockville, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 17:08:15 <-- Viewing This Message
          • Re: In many if not most European countries there >>>, CFishgo, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 19:52:56
        • Re: Hey now!, Mattias.se, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 10:26:56
          • Re: Hey now!, Jeremy R., Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:24:58
            • Re: the community matters too (+), Ed NC, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 15:58:56
          • Re: Hey now!, stillwaiting, Wed, 29 Jan 2003 13:15:10

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