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SAAB 5W-30 is not Mobil 1 repackaged. It may be Mobil but not Mobil 1. If I had to guess what it is, I would probably say Elf Evolution SXR 5W-30.

The new SAAB 0W-30 oil is a low HTHS oil that is ACEA A5 rated. It has a very high TBN, which is necessary to get the new OPEL GM-LL-AO25 approval. This new "long-life, oil monitor" standard is applicable to 2002+ SAAB vehicles, specifically the new 9-3. Vehicles before 2002 do NOT require this oil. The generic name of this oil is Elf Evolution SXR 0W-30, which is different from Elf Evolution 0W-30 because it is more up to date. The old version has the same OPEL GM-LL-AO25 approval, as well as VW 503.00/506.00. I have not seen the official documents but I believe this oil is also used by Renault as their "long-life" oil, capable of 30000 km intervals in the newer Renault vehicles.

The bottom line is that for pre-2002 vehicles one should be looking for ACEA A3 rated oil that has the proper API rating and SAE grade listed in the owner's manual. I think that either the commonly available Mobil 1 0W-40 or the really rare "Mde in Germany" Castrol Syntec 0W-30 are excellent choices. Mobil 1 5W-30 should be fine for low mileage vehicles but, given the choice, I would choose Mobil 1 10W-30 over it. Mobil 1 10W-30 is regarded as the best Mobil 1 available in N.A. due to it's very good thermal stability and excellent "stay in grade" characteristics. In plain language that means that Mobil 1 5W-30 (and 0W-40) will become thiner (perhaps too thin) during the interval, while 10W-30 will stay very close to it's original thickness, which is much preferred. Still, the 10W-30 has fairly low HTHS viscosity and may not be suitable for sustained high speed highway driving (i.e., 80+ mph for several hours.) This applies only to pre-2002 SAABs, as 2002+ models have lower HTHS requirements.

Characteristics of SAAB 0W-30 full synthetic:

SAE Grade: 0W-30
Density @15ºC: 0.864
cSt @ 100ºC: 9.6
Viscosity Index: 168
Flash Point, ºC: 220
Pour Point, ºC: -42
TBN: 12.4

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• 05W-30...I know the topic's been beat..., JM, Thu, 13 Nov 2003 18:51:35
  • So M1 0w-30 is bad for a turbo saab?, DavidFL, Mon, 17 Nov 2003 14:00:49
    • Re: So M1 0w-30 is bad for a turbo saab?, Jason 0W-40, Mon, 17 Nov 2003 15:03:10
  • It all depends, Eiron, Sat, 15 Nov 2003 00:01:08
  • PAOs versus HEs, dparadis , Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:58:09
    • As discussed in NINES..., Stephen Goldberger, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 14:40:41
      • GM-LL availability outside of America, Eiron, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:51:43
    • The author of this article had been misinformed (-), Vlad, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:28:57
    • Re: PAOs versus HEs, Jason 0W-40, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 11:22:48
  • Re: 05W-30...I know the topic's been beat..., Jason 0W-40, Thu, 13 Nov 2003 19:45:29
    • My cover is blown :-)) (+), Vlad, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:24:06 <-- Viewing This Message
      • Re: My cover is blown :-)) (+), 2 9-5's, Sat, 15 Nov 2003 10:38:02
      • GM-LL-A/B-025, Eiron, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:44:08
        • Oil change intervals, Stephen Goldberger, Sat, 15 Nov 2003 19:32:34
      • great info! thanks! (n/m), Jason 0W-40, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:44:07
      • Attaboy, Vlad, Stephen Goldberger, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:46:37
        • That's the general trend (+), Vlad, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:24:51
      • Re: My cover is blown :-)) (+), Ed NC, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 07:33:49
        • Re: My cover is blown :-)) (+), Jason 0W-40, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 08:42:37
          • EC in the turbo?, Eiron, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 23:06:31
            • Re: EC in the turbo?, Jason 0W-40, Sat, 15 Nov 2003 17:59:35
              • Engine oil abuse comparison?, Eiron, Sat, 15 Nov 2003 22:34:23
                • Re: Engine oil abuse comparison?, Jason 0W-40, Sun, 16 Nov 2003 00:31:02
                  • w00t !!, Eiron, Sun, 16 Nov 2003 20:03:51
          • Re: My cover is blown :-)) (+), Dean, Fri, 14 Nov 2003 10:21:31

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